personality of the tsx and so on..

[SoichiroHonda]

I know similar type of thread probably already exist but.. ill still ask.

*I am potential tsx buyer and planning to buy it hopefully so please provide
me with comments.


-What is the main type(ethnic back ground, age , gender , all etc...) of
people who own and love tsx?

-For tsx owners, why do you think your car is good? (reasons) and is there
something cool or unique about tsx? (for me, the overall performance + sexy
looks + great bang for the buck etc..)

-I once debated with my friend about tsx vs tl. I prefer tsx over tl because
of it's precision, agility , more nimbleness , Gotta love k24.... etc. While the
tl is a great car.. with that big / powerful engine, somehow i've always liked
the tsx better than the tl.. I can't tell exactly why but everytime i look at
both cars.. the tsx puts more smile on my face. It might be due to the tl's
huge size, more power than tsx but worse on the handling / cornering dept.
On the other hand, when I said I prefer tsx over tl eventhough tsx has less
hp, my friend said no no no.... he said in real life cornering dont matter and
big power matters more.. (for me, not really..) what does the tsx owners
have to say about this?... just was a simple yet questionable debate I had.

-Is the tsx's stock speaker made of mid/low grade Pioneer? I am not sure but
but I do remember hearing about this matter.

-Main purpose of tsx? First of all, people all understand that tsx is not a
race car or in most part, it wasn't really built for going fast atleast as in a
stock form. All I know is that the tsx is a great all around sports sedan.
Is tsx built for cruising? racing? performance? comfort? lux? you name it.

-The tsx has 205 hp with around like 3200 lbs?.. that said, do u guys feel
that the car is underpowered or doesnt' accelerate well? Last time I test
drove 2006 tsx/no nav/AT was indeed feel a little sluggish. Of course I drove
slow but still felt puzzled.. however I was able to feel the great cornering
ability and comfort.

-Should I get nav model or no nav and AT or MT? any recommendations would
be appreciated. I want to get either AT or MT with no nav and save about
$2000. Then get a different nav system... I don't think the factory nav in
tsx is worth $2000?.. I mean the voice command is cool but not really
necessary for me so..

-How is tsx compared to lexus is250 , 328i coupe ?...

Thanks for reading people ~

[MemphisRheins]

Originally Posted by SoichiroHonda

I know similar type of thread probably already exist but.. ill still ask.

*I am potential tsx buyer and planning to buy it hopefully so please provide
me with comments.

-What is the main type(ethnic back ground, age , gender , all etc...) of
people who own and love tsx?

Based on this forum at least, seems to be Asian, mid to late 20's... out in the world, I see a lot of 40 something men and women... personally im 22 and Caucasian

-For tsx owners, why do you think your car is good? (reasons) and is there
something cool or unique about tsx? (for me, the overall performance + sexy
looks + great bang for the buck etc..)

I love the way the car looks, has one of the best interiors out there, especially for the price, its still not a fast car, but ive gotten it to the point where it is quite sporty and gives a great driving experence.

-I once debated with my friend about tsx vs tl. I prefer tsx over tl because
of it's precision, agility , more nimbleness , Gotta love k24.... etc. While the
tl is a great car.. with that big / powerful engine, somehow i've always liked
the tsx better than the tl.. I can't tell exactly why but everytime i look at
both cars.. the tsx puts more smile on my face. It might be due to the tl's
huge size, more power than tsx but worse on the handling / cornering dept.
On the other hand, when I said I prefer tsx over tl eventhough tsx has less
hp, my friend said no no no.... he said in real life cornering dont matter and
big power matters more.. (for me, not really..) what does the tsx owners
have to say about this?... just was a simple yet questionable debate I had.

Well your argument was spot on... the TL is faster accelerating, and in a straight line, however its twice the size of the TSX, and suffers from Torque Steer, also it has the newer McPherson Suspension set up, while the TSX is one of the last true Honda Suspensions with the Double Wishbone set up.

-Is the tsx's stock speaker made of mid/low grade Pioneer? I am not sure but
but I do remember hearing about this matter.

Yep, they unfortunately are, paper filtercones and all, I replaced mine with High end Pioneer a while back, and have been very happy since then.

-Main purpose of tsx? First of all, people all understand that tsx is not a
race car or in most part, it wasn't really built for going fast atleast as in a
stock form. All I know is that the tsx is a great all around sports sedan.
Is tsx built for cruising? racing? performance? comfort? lux? you name it.

The TSX is just a great all around package, its Great for Cruising, I have a 400 mile Trip whenever I go to see my parents and its comfortable for that. Its got the looks and interior that get you a "nice car" when people first see/sit in her, Performance wise, I Auto X my car, and do pretty good actually, even with a heavy front wheel drive car.

-The tsx has 205 hp with around like 3200 lbs?.. that said, do u guys feel
that the car is underpowered or doesnt' accelerate well? Last time I test
drove 2006 tsx/no nav/AT was indeed feel a little sluggish. Of course I drove
slow but still felt puzzled.. however I was able to feel the great cornering
ability and comfort.

The AT is definitely a bit more sluggish then the MT, but yes it is a bit underpowered, however its got enough power to get you out of trouble (or in trouble if you have a heavy foot)
its also a Honda, which means a smallish 4 cyl (2.4L is actually pretty impressive for a 4banger) with low torque, but at higher revs enough HP to have some play with...
You dont sound like your typical modder, but with a few little toys the TSX looses quite a bit of her shyness and becomes a real great drivers car.

-Should I get nav model or no nav and AT or MT? any recommendations would
be appreciated. I want to get either AT or MT with no nav and save about
$2000. Then get a different nav system... I don't think the factory nav in
tsx is worth $2000?.. I mean the voice command is cool but not really
necessary for me so..

Personally I have a 2004, 5AT, non Navi... I would once again intirely recomend the 6MT over the 5AT, its a different car, it ight be a little worse if you get stuck in a lot of traffic, but its not a difficult clutch, It really shouldn't bother you at all even while stuck (I once got stuck driving a 87 Porsche 944 in 3 hours of traffic, up hill with a racing clutch, left leg still shakes lol). As for the Navi Question, Honda/Acura's Navi is made by Alpine, and is one of the best OEM ones on the market, My Friends BMW gets itself lost constantly, we were going to a restaurant the other night and ended up in the middle of suburbia. I have a Magellan 4300 GPS, with has been great, 400$ at Costco and it has Bluetooth for my phone, no voice commands however.

-How is tsx compared to lexus is250 , 328i coupe ?...

I dont know on the Lexus, however I have drove the 328 Sedan, and wasnt that much of a fan, the 335 on the other hand is amazing, but the 328 just feels like something missing, steering wheel feels a bit dialish, brakes a bit too firm, however the 6MT was a real nice gearbox...

Thanks for reading people ~

No Problem, Welcome to the Forum!

[ccaden]

I am 24 white male. As for the TSX over the TL, I have driven the TL a few times as a loaner from Acura when getting service done, and I am glad I got the TSX instead of the TL. In my opinion although I do like the extra power the TL has, even though the TSX can be modded and get that. I have an 06 TSX non nav, and I pretty much have all the features the TL does just in a little different styling. For the price difference I think the TSX is much better. I had a Lexus IS 300 before I got the TSX, and the only thing I miss is the flashy name. Everyone automatically reacts differently when they see a Lexus, but everyone that gets in my TSX does say "nice car". I would get a Lexus or Acura over a BMW any day.

[xjohnkdoex]

-agreed, seems to be a lot of asians, but there are caucasions and latinos too. also agreed w/ the demographic, though that's limited to more the forums and posters. you'll see plenty of older people or women driving the car.

-TSX is a good all-around bundle of quality and value for the price of the car. it's honda, so you know it's reliable. it has a relatively higher resale value versus other cars. it has nice little perks with gizmos and luxury, yet sporty with the looks. it also has pretty good fuel efficiency and won't own your wallet as hard as some other cars. it's a good entry level luxury sedan if you're in your mid-/late-20s (i'm 30).

-different strokes for different folks. if i had the money, i'd probably get the TL type-S. both have their positives and negatives. it's all about your personal needs vs. wants, and what you can afford imo.

-not sure about the speakers.

-TSX is a smooth, quality daily driver. there is an ample amount of comfort and enough luxury for its price. if you want it for a race track, you can try to mod it as such.

-lacking low-end torque is an issue for all hondas. it's not a beast. it's not a g35. it's not turbocharged. if you're looking for power, speed, and low 0-60 times, this is not your car. you can mod it to increase performance to a point.

-personally, i didn't get the navi b/c i didn't think it was worth an extra $2000. for a 1/4 of that price, i can get a stand along navi that i can take with me if i travel. that's just me though.

i got an AT b/c i can't drive a MT (though i'd like to learn). but from all accounts, the MT sounds like it's more fun to drive and probably more-responsive vs. the AT.

-i've never driven or rode in either of those cars (lexus IS or bimmer). but both look nice. pricing point for the bimmer is way outta my budget, and all the amenities are pay-to-play. the IS is really nice, but again, the price was a bit over my budget.

[tsx4life]

it seems like u wanna know whaT RACE DOMINATES TSX..AND ITS SOUND KINDA PREJUDICE....SO THINK BEFORE U WRITE.....

[theTSXdude]

Originally Posted by SoichiroHonda

-What is the main type(ethnic back ground, age , gender , all etc...) of
people who own and love tsx?

-For tsx owners, why do you think your car is good? (reasons) and is there
something cool or unique about tsx? (for me, the overall performance + sexy
looks + great bang for the buck etc..)

I'm a 100% Chinese 17 year old living in the Bay Area, so I see alot of middle-aged Asian mothers and middle-aged white guys driving the TSX. Hardly any teenagers, but then again, what teenager can afford this? Anyways, I think the TSX is a really nice car (like you said, best bang for the buck) and it's very sporty. Something that I have noticed however, if you look at the TSX at a certain angle from the front (I think it was directly from the front) it looked a little bit weird, to me anyways.

Originally Posted by SoichiroHonda

-I once debated with my friend about tsx vs tl. I prefer tsx over tl because
of it's precision, agility , more nimbleness , Gotta love k24.... etc. While the
tl is a great car.. with that big / powerful engine, somehow i've always liked
the tsx better than the tl.. I can't tell exactly why but everytime i look at
both cars.. the tsx puts more smile on my face. It might be due to the tl's
huge size, more power than tsx but worse on the handling / cornering dept.
On the other hand, when I said I prefer tsx over tl eventhough tsx has less
hp, my friend said no no no.... he said in real life cornering dont matter and
big power matters more.. (for me, not really..) what does the tsx owners
have to say about this?... just was a simple yet questionable debate I had.

I personally never test-drove the TL, but overall, I just like the TSX's appearance more. It just looks more sporty. Besides, we get better gas mileage with the TSX and considering how high oil prices are nowadays, an extra buck in your pocket won't hurt =]

Originally Posted by SoichiroHonda

-Main purpose of tsx? First of all, people all understand that tsx is not a
race car or in most part, it wasn't really built for going fast atleast as in a
stock form. All I know is that the tsx is a great all around sports sedan.
Is tsx built for cruising? racing? performance? comfort? lux? you name it.

I wanted a balance of luxury along with performance. Not many cars give you both at 30k (thus the bang for the buck concept haha).

Originally Posted by SoichiroHonda

-Should I get nav model or no nav and AT or MT? any recommendations would
be appreciated. I want to get either AT or MT with no nav and save about
$2000. Then get a different nav system... I don't think the factory nav in
tsx is worth $2000?.. I mean the voice command is cool but not really
necessary for me so..

I have the '06 with navi and I haven't regretted it since. My dad got a Magellan for our '00 Odyssey minivan and I think the $2k was definitely better deal than the $300.

Originally Posted by SoichiroHonda

-How is tsx compared to lexus is250 , 328i coupe ?...

When I first decided what car to get, I also looked at the IS350 (my parents don't really like European/American cars). I really do regret it... I mean, considering you can afford the extra 15k you dish out, plus the decreased gas mileage. But then again, I think the IS350 is in a totally different class compared to the TSX.

[nj2pa2nc]

i am a older female that owns a 06 6spd w nav tsx. Bought it new, one year ago 11/17/ it has almost 33,000 miles on it. I love it. I personally would not consider a car that does not have 6 speed manual transmission. tl stopped offering 6spd and my budget does not have room for the tl-s.

[theTSXdude]

Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc

i am a older female that owns a 06 6spd w nav tsx. Bought it new, one year ago 11/17/ it has almost 33,000 miles on it. I love it. I personally would not consider a car that does not have 6 speed manual transmission. tl stopped offering 6spd and my budget does not have room for the tl-s.

You bought it a year ago and you already have 33k miles on it? How much do you drive?

[SoichiroHonda]

Originally Posted by tsx4life

it seems like u wanna know whaT RACE DOMINATES TSX..AND ITS SOUND KINDA PREJUDICE....SO THINK BEFORE U WRITE.....

???? sure.... no comment -_-;;

[Zeeshan]

- here in so cal, it seems every race, age, shape and form drive the TSX. Im personally pakistani, 24 male. but my 23 yr old wife also drives it.

- heres why i think the TSX is good (not great though). Looks sexy. Great bang for your buck as far as FEATURES but not really when you go to the engine....they coulda done better there. good gas mileage though. has all the creature comforts you could ask for with a entry level lux car. people that dont know much about it swear i paid $5k-8k more.

- the reason i chose TSX over TL...they felt like the same size back seat from the inside (slight difference only), price was way lower on the TSX. so be it.

- not sure about the stockers. some people hate them, some people are okay with them, i dont think anyone "loves" them. personally, i think they get the job done, i dont plan on changing them. im not so much an audiophile.

- main purpose of a tsx....comfortable commuter, and looks sexy on a side not. i love the shape of the car, hate the stock wheels however. but its comfortable, has nice features with the embedded navi, and gets good gas mileage to qualify as a commuter.

- underpowered....yes. but gets the job done, so whatever.

- get the nav. its worth it. theres too much custom work involved in getting an aftermarket put it, and it will never look as clean as stock, no matter how much you try, the stock just looks beautiful. if the car didnt come with nav, i wouldnt have bought it. plus stock is 9'' screen, aftermarkets are 7''.

- compared to is250....tsx is better. all similar features, and both are slow. compared to is350, 350 is wayyy better car, way faster. compared to 328i...everyone has their own opinion, mine is that the 328i is worth the money if you can afford it....tsx is a way cheaper car by about $8k. you get what you pay for.

[kuma912]

-I'm an asian male in my early 20's. Also a number of asian males in my demographic area drives a tsx too.

-I think the car is good because the K engine is the best 4 cylinder motor in the world.

-TL vs TSX. IMHO i find the TL more of a girls car.

-I don't care about the sounds. I barely turn them on.

-Main purpose of the tsx is to use it as a weekend cruiser.

-Don't care much about the power. I can always make it more powerful.

-Don't care about the nav. I'm a man. I don't need no stinking maps. In all seriousness. Its useless for me.

-The IS is a nice car. But its backseat is nonexistent. The bimmer is way better than the tsx.

[ians]

- asian in Toronto, wife & I both 30+ yr old. 04 TSX PWP 6MT with 75000km
- TSX is our best car ever have. The things that I wish our TSX have: thicker & smaller steering wheel, memory seat, bluetooth, 1 touch open/close on all windows & sunroof
- I didn't even considered the TL at all because TL is not made in Japan
- I found the TSX stock sounds system is way better than the upgraded sound system on my bimmer, so no complain
- TSX is our primary family car, both my wife & I prefer to drive our TSX over the bimmer everyday. Our Bimmer have been dead on the road so many times that we are not comfortable to risk our kids life on it.
- I totally not feel our TSX is underpower (well... maybe at least before our new car arrive ). With 6MT + hondata + pulley + header, my TSX already give me a lot of trouble(speeding ticket)!!!
- I wish I can have stock navi on my TSX but we dun have the luck since navi is not available at all for 04 Cdn model.
- I have driven my friend's IS250 MT, the clutch & shifter absoultely not comparable with the TSX and also IS is kind of sluggish when compare to my TSX(but my TSX is slightly modded, so it is not fair to compare). And I also dun think 328i is any better than TSX, but I will choose 328i over IS and then wish my luck that it won't break down as much as my current 328i. After extensive test drive before I pull the trigger to order a brand new 335i, I already planned mods on the clutch & shifter once the new car arrive and still won't expect it can drive as smooth as TSX.

[lcrazyaznl]

21 asian male.

I've driven my friends is 250 the at is slow at shifting even with paddle shifters it kind of lugs around.

his trunk is so tiny same with back seats. Overall its more of a 2 seater car than family luxary sedan.

I upgraded speakers to Inifitny kappas which made the sound more crisp and stands out.

I've driven the stick version and was sad that i didn't go stick, but i live in a densely packed commuter area so stick wouldn't have been fun unless really early or late in the day and night.

i'm happy with my car and plenty of mods to keep it from being underpower.

[Timd38]

53 year old white guy in Detroit that was looking for a cheap, well equipped, reliable car to take to the airport that also had good resale value.

If you are looking for a performance car, look for something else. The car really lacks power in the lower power bands. Both my other cars are V8 powered, one with 300HP and the other with 400HP, so a 200HP TSX that weighs as much as my 400HP car, impacts my view.

Would I buy again? I think the added HP of the TL would be nice, but the TSX does get good gas millage.

[shay654]

Although most imports are predominantly "asian" driven, I find that a lot of caucasians and middle aged people driving around my area with TSX's! Then again, I drive around the whole Bay Area and I have yet to find someone around my age driving one! That's why I believe there's really not much of a certain demographic for TSX drivers! I think it's pretty diverse and has a very broad spectrum when it comes to ownership! I mean, I love the fact that a lot of people from all walks of life no matter what age is driving a TSX! It makes the appeal of the car THAT much greater for me!

That's how I am with my music! I love meeting people who have an eclectic taste when it comes to music! A broad perspective of any kind shows a broader appreciation for whatever that may be ! I don't know if that makes sense, but I'm sure you guys know what I mean! haha