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Old 10-06-2009, 05:51 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Camaro SS is not sports car.

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Old 10-06-2009, 05:58 PM   #17 (permalink)
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If you're complaining about the clutch on the TSX, I guess maybe that upgrade to the Porsche is not in your near future. Or even a BMW, for that matter. The TSX is not the lightest clutch around, but it's a far cry from being stiff and hard to modulate.
Maybe TSX is different than Accord Type S. If i have to compare it it has harder than new M3 sedan.
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:41 PM   #18 (permalink)
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If you're complaining about the clutch on the TSX, I guess maybe that upgrade to the Porsche is not in your near future. Or even a BMW, for that matter. The TSX is not the lightest clutch around, but it's a far cry from being stiff and hard to modulate.
Who tell you BMW has good MT???????
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I think the Top Gear crew should give it a drive before they decide to bash. It handles great, has massive power, and stops on a dime.

0-60 mph in 4.1 seconds seems very sporty to me.
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Who tell you BMW has good MT???????

It's a subjective thing, but most automotive reviews rave about BMW manuals. I personally have owned a couple manual BMW's, and found their gearboxes to be very nice indeed.

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It's a subjective thing, but most automotive reviews rave about BMW manuals. I personally have owned a couple manual BMW's, and found their gearboxes to be very nice indeed.

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I agree. After a few test drives (Z3 and 330) BMW has a great manual setup.
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Let me get this right?... You are having trouble with the TSX clutch and now you are berating the 2010 Camaro...

Riiiiiiiiight!!...

I'm just kidding, but once you have mastered the TSX manual trans, you should test drive a 2010 V8 manual trans Camaro or Mustang or Corvette or Challenger..

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I think the Top Gear crew should give it a drive before they decide to bash. It handles great, has massive power, and stops on a dime.

0-60 mph in 4.1 seconds seems very sporty to me.

i think they handling+hp is a sports car

able to only go straight with high hp is not a sports car to them......since they are europeans hehe

Actually any european car the clutch is heavy......TSX is damn light
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Maybe TSX is different than Accord Type S. If i have to compare it it has harder than new M3 sedan.
i thought mechanically, the TSX and Accord type S is identical
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the tsx clutch is FAR easier to drive with than my stage 2 b series turbo civic had. lol.. first time i drove the tsx, i was so excited to just go from stop light to stop light becuase it was so easy to engage/disengage
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2 griffojm. Camaro SS is not sports car. It has power but handling none.

2 Luwin1026. BMW gearbox is in most cases great, have you driven SMG or SMGII?

Due to you all attacking me I thought that probably was drunk when i wrote down that type s has heavy clutch. this morning i tried it and i have to conclude that TSX and TYPE-s probably don't have same clutch.

To those who are talking about weak knee, I do leg press with 345 kg (749 pounds) so you decide...
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If TSX clutch is not satisfying, then just get an auto. I tried MT TSX and it is heaven compared to my old Civic with short shifter and heavy clutch....
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Idea of this post wasn't that 100 man discuss about clutches but to meet the ladies. Damn. If i have to explain
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It's a subjective thing, but most automotive reviews rave about BMW manuals. I personally have owned a couple manual BMW's, and found their gearboxes to be very nice indeed.

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Dun want to start a discussion about that topic but it seems like I have bad luck with BMW. I own a E46 328i & a E92 335i and my brothers own E36 325i, E46 330i, Z3 1.9. None of them give us any pleasure from the crappy MT gearbox especially the stupid cdv they put on the E36 & E92. And we all brought it brand new so no abuse by previous owner.
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Dun want to start a discussion about that topic but it seems like I have bad luck with BMW. I own a E46 328i & a E92 335i and my brothers own E36 325i, E46 330i, Z3 1.9. None of them give us any pleasure from the crappy MT gearbox especially the stupid cdv they put on the E36 & E92. And we all brought it brand new so no abuse by previous owner.
I know lot of problems with bmw- but gearbox is not one of them.

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