I know some people have been wondering about these rotors because of their price. Here is a quick post-install review. I know you need more time to get a thorough review, but this is just an idea for those who are eyeing them now. I'll try to keep an update.
I just installed the e-line slotted/drilled front & back rotors from R1Concepts with back/front Akebono ProACT Ceremic pads.
Haven't driven far but the stopping power is a tad better than OEM and there are no signs of dusting. I'm still in the breaking in period but the initial squeaks are dying and its becoming pretty quiet.
Tirerack rates my brake pads the same as Hawk HPs in noise, and even better in dusting. They aren't rated as well in stopping power, but I was able to pick up a front and rear set of Akebonos for the price of the Hawk fronts (from Kragen).
I'm overall happy with my purchase. Slightly better performance, less dusting and seemingly good quality parts for a reasonable price. My goal was slightly better performance while also improving the visual look of my car.
O yeah, and this could possibly mean nothing, but the rotors seemed to be slightly heavier than OEM and the construction didn't present any signs of weakness or flaws. But that's just my unprofessional opinion.
I used to have the Akebono pad on my E46 and they are excellent! very minimal brake dust but still give the same stopping power but just didn't give you the so call "superior" brake feel from the bmw oem pad.
Yeah that's a very accurate description so far. More or less the same stopping power, maybe a little more. But it hasn't made a sound past break in and there is little/no dusting.
Rotors are still smooth, as they should be for only 100 miles. No real improvement in braking but it looks a lot better.
wasup guys...i just ordered some r1 concept rotors should be here by tuesday...along with some ebc green pads front and rear as well...ill post some review as far as quality and perfromance wise...
zhieson wat was your break in time for the rotors and how long did your squeak stop same for msm ching?
Maybe a couple miles of city driving. Since I used a more economical brake pad, it didn't take long for it to become silent.
As for performance, it was not my intent. I simply wanted a comfortable, affordable, quiet, dust free brake setup. I received all the above with my current setup. I won't deny that there are better setups, but the OEM stopping power is more than enough for me. I'm not one to tail gate and I'm a very observant driver. Braking power has not decreased in any aspect with my setup.
The rotors look nice, but one thing that I do wonder and am wary about in terms of any drilled/slotted combo rotor is the loss of total contact area of the pad with the rotor. That's why the majority of rotors I sell are either blank or slotted at most (unless the customer is completely set on combo and he or she understands the effects of loss in total friction area).
As far as pads go, Akebono hasn't really listed very high on my list. Most of it has to do with its low COF and low MOT. That's not to say its not a bad pad. For most people, it'll be fine, but start pushing the brakes harder then normal driving, I've noticed that Akebonos tend to fall flat on its face.
Just to add something about the R1 rotors. I was concerned about the weight of them. I used a simple analog scale and the stock came in at 17lbs and R1 at 16. Rears both weighed the same.
So thats another plus for the R1s. Maybe someone can verify this too.
Are you guys completely switching out the entire rotar / caliper/ pad / cylinders? or are you just getting new pads and rotars? I've read everything you guys have said but still don't have an over all jist of what i'd want to go with.. whats the over all best bang for the buck.. and do they really cut down on dust? by doing so do you have to replace them less often or more often?
I am personally thinking about painting my calipers black, but if i can get a new caliper already black and lower my dust, that'd save me time detailing my wheels everytime i clean my car lol
looks good, although the drilled set up is a waste of time, your better off just slotted, the purpose of the drilling of the rotor way back was the difference in the make up of the pads, they had more shit in them in the old days, when they would heat up gases would build up between the pads and rotors causing bad fade, they drilled them to let the gasses escape, these days not even race cars use that set up as its not needed, if you look at any Indy car or F1 car they only use the slotted as that is enough cooling, coupled with what other cooling ducts they have for the brakes, to suffice for them, end of story..............
The drilled rotors are to prevent rotor warping by allowing air to flow over and through, this keeps rotors up to 150deg cooler. Make sure they are chamfered for smooth transition at the edge preventing spider cracks around the holes!!!
It's actually the slots that are for the brake dust and gas. They also work as wear idicators so you can see when they need to be changed!!!
Just wanted to say that over a year later, both pads and rotors are performing the same as they did brand new. No noise, no vibrations, and no new problems. Rotors are wearing even across the surface as well (felt that way when I ran my finger across it).
hi, just wanted to get some feedback, i installed powerstop rotors and pad about 15 months ago and im already feeling vibration in when i press the brakes. i do alot of highway driving but my driving is not very aggressive.
i am willing to spend money but will these rotors and pads last longer than powerstop?
thanks for the replies
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