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Old 09-01-2009, 12:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Tein Basic vs SS Coilover Kit Review

Anyone that has owned either coilover kit can give me feedback as in price, performance and quality of the kit. I am currently shopping for coilovers and came across Tein. If anyone have used other brands other than tein, feel free to post your reviews.

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Old 09-01-2009, 01:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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They are almost the same coilover, the SS has 2 more options, you can adjust the damper and it has top hats which will make it easier to install.
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The Basics and the SS have the same spring rates.
Neither are recommend for track (circuit) racing.
If you are just looking to lower your car and forget about it, the basics is ideal for that.
If you want to lower your car and have SOME adjust-ability, then the SS would be good for that as you can make it a LITTLE bit softer and stiffer.
Other than that, Tein is a good company and both coil overs are great. I personally had the Basics, and it was not stiff enough for me, neither are my current Buddy Club N+, but they do provide a comfortable ride!
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I say go with the SS because I did the same thing I went back and forth on which one to get basic or SS and I went with the SS and I am happy I did. I sometimes like to change the settings from soft to hard depending on what I feel like that day, it's just nice to have that option.
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I just have the basic. I figured that once I lowered it, I was going to forget it anyway. I love the ride, and the handling. Although the only time I get to enjoy it is when my wife isn't with me. And I know myself well enough to know that eventually even with the SS I would just end up leaving it alone once the "newness" wore off. To me, not worth the extra $$.
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I am making this article in response to an overwhelming number of times I have to answer this question. I am going attempt to make this posting grow to reflect more suspension items in Tein's lineup. Right now, it should give you a little insight into which direction you should go!


Basics -
For the customer who wants to lower the car, improve handling, and retain a relatively nice ride as compared to stock. Most times the ride is comparable to stock. Over certain roads a difference can be felt. This suspension makes the car feel more attached to the road. Springs are firmer than stock but cannot be considered a "race" setup. We often get people stating they want lowering, firmer ride, but do not want a track suspension. The Basics will generally work well for this customer!

SS - Same thing as Basics with the ability to adjust stiffness. The springs are the same as well, so adjustability is on the damper compression/rebound rate. There are 4 reasons to get the SS over the basic.
1- You have extra money to spend and always get the more expensive thing.
2- You are really concerned about ride, so you want to soften it up making it closer to stock.
3- You are really interested in performance, you want to be able to dial in the shocks where you feel they handle the best.
4- You want your gadgets to have more tweak-ability.

CST (Comfort Sport) - This kit is similar to the SS on the surface, but a closer look reveals that there are significant differences. The springs are softer, shock are mono-tube, and the MSV piston valve technology helps make this kit ride really smooth and soft. If you want you car to feel like you are riding on a pillow, this is the one to get. Lowering is generally significant too although it is limited because there is no full-length adjustment. This kit is ideal for the VIP-inspired ride that will be daily driven. Upper mounts are included in this kit, and they have rubber bushings instead of rigid bearings for better road vibration isolation.

FLEX - FLEX are for the person who wants maximum handling with a ride that is still acceptable on the street. These have a higher spring rate than the Basic/SS. These shocks and springs are designed for a higher performance level. This also means they will ride firmer than the others. Upper pillow mounts are included, which increase responsiveness and linear feel of suspension, but also make the ride feel harsher (similar to effect of installing low profile tires). The Flex also have a unique lower bracket that facilitates changing of the damper length. This gives more height options and allows for spring preload. If maximum lowering (3"+) is your goal, the FLEX will work. These adjustments also allow for greater track tuning.

EDFC - Simply allows you to adjust the firmness of the damper from inside the car. The kit consists of an electronic controller and 4 stepping motors. The motors mount on top of the Tein damper and is wired to the controller allowing adjustment of the suspension from the driver's seat on the fly! The kit is complete and no other items need to be purchased for installation. Not always compatible with all cars and all adjustable dampers*.

* On the TSX it works with the FLEX and CT, but not SS due to clearance issues on the car.
* On the 99-03 TL and 01-03 CL the EDFC will work with SS and SS-P kits.
* On the 04-08 TL the EDFC works on SS kits but requires the removal of the oem front strut bar. Fastline Performance is currently at work prototyping a replacement brace for this application that will allow edfc installation.



Another comment on SS and Basics compared to stock:
The ride on either kit is very close to stock. Because of tuned rebound rates, the handling is much improved. This combined with higher compression rates and matched coil springs, more road irregularities can be felt. This means that while the softness of the ride is scarcely different than stock, the actual road bumps and cracks can be felt a little more. Over larger bumps, the suspension will not travel as much, creating a bump in the ride, but the car returns to neutral state quickly. This provides a feeling of stability over stock suspension.

So, will you feel a difference? Yes. Will it feel firmer than stock? Yes. Will the ride quality be the same as stock? Yes.

For a more stock feeling ride, the SS allows you to tune the dampers softer giving more cushiness.
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thanks for that^ was looking for reviews,good thing i saw this thread.
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I've have Tein SS coilovers fitted to my Accord (TSX) for nearly 3years now. I find the ride comfortable but the ride height limited.

I have got the rear suspension on it's lowest setting. i.e adjusting nuts screwed all the way to the bottom, but rear wheels won't sit in the arch. I have to weight the rear down with bass box in the boot!

I have contacted Tein and they say that i can get lower springs with a stiffer spring rate.
Found out recently that my front shockers are BANGING over bumps. So i think i'm just going to do my homework and buy D2 coilovers or something, to lower my car on its hole!

Overall....Tein SS great for comfort and handling...not for mega low ride height (which i like not always what people want tho).

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I've have Tein SS coilovers fitted to my Accord (TSX) for nearly 3years now. I find the ride comfortable but the ride height limited.

I have got the rear suspension on it's lowest setting. i.e adjusting nuts screwed all the way to the bottom, but rear wheels won't sit in the arch. I have to weight the rear down with bass box in the boot!

I have contacted Tein and they say that i can get lower springs with a stiffer spring rate.
Found out recently that my front shockers are BANGING over bumps. So i think i'm just going to do my homework and buy D2 coilovers or something, to lower my car on its hole!

Overall....Tein SS great for comfort and handling...not for mega low ride height (which i like not always what people want tho).

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The problem with getting the shorter springs is that you will run out of suspension travel and the car will ride like crap. It will make the banging woese.

Take a look at the HT-Spec damper kit we are developing. You'll get the ride and height you want to achieve!

HT-Spec Tuning - Function&Form Type-2 Damper - TSX Specific Application
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The problem with getting the shorter springs is that you will run out of suspension travel and the car will ride like crap. It will make the banging woese.

Take a look at the HT-Spec damper kit we are developing. You'll get the ride and height you want to achieve!

HT-Spec Tuning - Function&Form Type-2 Damper - TSX Specific Application

I have heard that the Buddyclub n+ coilover kit will lower my car lots. What is your opinion on this please?

All i want is to slam my car further than the Tein SS kit which i have and have never been happy with. It was a bit too soft over bumps anyway..i like to feel the road!!!

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yes im pretty sure you can lay the frame on the ground with the n+

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I have heard that the Buddyclub n+ coilover kit will lower my car lots. What is your opinion on this please?

All i want is to slam my car further than the Tein SS kit which i have and have never been happy with. It was a bit too soft over bumps anyway..i like to feel the road!!!

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I have the SS and love it. Tein Flex is too expensive for what most TSX peep do and Basic does not have dampening
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I have heard that the Buddyclub n+ coilover kit will lower my car lots. What is your opinion on this please?

All i want is to slam my car further than the Tein SS kit which i have and have never been happy with. It was a bit too soft over bumps anyway..i like to feel the road!!!

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You can get the height you want with either the HT-Spec or buddy club kit.
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