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Originally Posted by larchmont
I think you're taking some of this a bit too intensely. Or maybe you're just an intense person.....
I didn't mean you had to do anything, of course. I was just using this as a moment to mention my little thought about "exact same cars,"
Meaning I need to do this if I want to find out if other "exact same" cars have some of the fit and finish issues that my car has. It just bothers me that I can't find a perfect car for me. With a better QC, 8000 redline, power passenger seat, and auto up/down windows the TSX would have been the perfect car. But alas my journey continues. I'll wait for the RL and probably buy a used one in 07 or something. In life its the little things that get to us. Big things we can expect and react to, but its the little things like the straw that will break the camels back eventually.
I agree that the TSX isn't a "great" car. But I don't agree that it competes well only because of the price. Although some of the venerable "great" cars in the category have higher prices on paper, in fact we've seen 9-3's and 3-series cars going for pretty close to TSX prices. I think the truth is, NONE of these are "great" cars, especially if you take reliability into account, which I do very heavily. By my criteria, which admittedly might be a little idiosyncratic, the TSX is the "best" car of the bunch, and, as I've said elsewhere, it's also the "best" car even if you go up a couple of notches in price. That view is quite extreme, but I think you'll find a lot of people disagreeing that the TSX competes well only because of price.
I think that even if the TSX were priced like $2K higher, and if Honda/Acura pushed the car (which they're not), it would compete well too.
Majority of people buy TSX because of "value" and "bang for the buck". If they can get a 250+ hp V6 with all the goodies the TSX has for only $2k more, then of course they will go that route (G35 9-3 325 IS300 C240 A4). But the fact is they can't. With all the popular options, these cars are running $35k. Nobody finishes teset driving these cars and say "Hey look at this TSX it is so fast". I would bet money that more than 50% of TSX owners have owned an Accord/Civic/Integra/RSX in the past, and I'm not one of them.
Bottom line, I'm happy with the TSX, but I think Acura can dominate this segment by upping the performance/quality even with a price increase.
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