Ducktail Spoiler ?

[white ghost]

well i went in the dealer today and saw a tsx with a ducktail spoiler in the showroom. i asked the parts department about it and they had no clue and told me to talk to the manager. well he said he can get them i am actually waiting for him to call me with the info and price...

[superx]

You may find your answer in ebay, LOL, type the keyword and search in ebay

[Peregrine]

there are no real ductail spoilers on ebay. Just some guy misadvertising spoon replicas as ductail.
Ductail looks like on the below pics.

If this is really the ductail spoiler, damn! I'm very interested. PLEASE, let us know what happens. Can you get a pic of that spoiler from the showroom? Even with a phone cam?...

[TtSsXx]

so nice pic, Peregrine, loving ur angel eyes....

i am very interested with the real ducktail spoiler too...let us know more about it...

[puiyingbread]

spoiler from dealer will cost a lot...... IMO

[narci]

proper OEM ducktail is only sold in Europe (Unless they started to sell them now here in the US). Cost with shipping and exchange would run you $600-700. Proper ducktail requires you to drill a hole in the middle of the trunk lid for mounting.

[Peregrine]

so nice pic, Peregrine, loving ur angel eyes....
...

Thank you :)

[Peregrine]

proper OEM ducktail is only sold in Europe (Unless they started to sell them now here in the US). Cost with shipping and exchange would run you $600-700. Proper ducktail requires you to drill a hole in the middle of the trunk lid for mounting.

:werd: although I'm pretty sure you can get it shipped from UK for about $300-400. Still a lot of dough for a simple spoiler...

[white ghost]

well these are the pics i took today
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/eurofocus/DSC00453.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/eurofocus/DSC00452.jpg
they told me it would be 375.00 painted. i am gonna see if we can get a a lower price if we have more buyers. like a group buy

[Peregrine]

it's a little hard to see on black, but that's definitely not a ducktail spoiler. I think it looks more like a Spoon replica. Just like those misadvertised on ebay.

[superx]

yeah, like a spoon spoiler

[MemphisRheins]

Think it may just be a spolier off of one of the other Honda/Acuras?... I know the accord comes with a lip spoiler option, as well as the RL, TL and a few others... Looks pretty damn good to me though still, esp on black... I sometimes really wish I didnt have a spoiler so I could do a nice lip

[TtSsXx]

the spoiler in the 2nd pic looks so thick, seems thicker than the spoon one...

[chuson]

I think I posted on other forum saying that they started to sell lip spoiler for TSX??? No one believe me tho... but if you look @ the pix "white ghost" posted, the TSX is in the Acura Showroom, so I guess they will not sell a replica lipspoiler lol

[puiyingbread]

poor chuson........no one believe u...>.<
so 375 is USD or CAD, i think it's USD
and it looks like half ducktail and half spoon...........
too thick...not smooth enough...
not my taste..........haha

[Peregrine]

yeah, again, it's hard to tell from these pics, but comparing to the spoon replica in this thread http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13267 the above seems slightly different. So it must be a new breed.
I definitely don't like it, though...
...maybe if I saw it at diff angles, on other cars, or in person... but still, I prefer the real ducktail.

[socaljdmtsx]

I think it looks pretty sweet....but like others have said...i would prefer to see a pic from about 10 feet back and at different angles....good thread though....thanx white ghost

[TtSsXx]

well, i love the TL lip spoiler more than that....:P

[kel1020]

i think the lip spoiler is one that was custom made and sold in ebay couple month's ago...i think i have the same spoiler....it is thicker than the spoon spoiler and not exactly like the edm ducktail....

found some more pics of it
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3158

[Peregrine]

well, i love the TL lip spoiler more than that....:P

TL OEM lip spoiler is the exact brother of the Accord Euro Ducktail spoiler. (It may even be called ducktail, I'm not sure, since I never searched for TL parts.) It's design is exactly the same, except it's width is different. So it doesn't fit TSX.

[Peregrine]

I wonder if that lip spoiler is the same as this: http://www.aerocarparts.net/index.php?area_id=1004&page_id=1019&article_id=12&LIMIT=
The pic is small and not really clear on angles of that spoiler. From the distance it looks like the one above or even like a real ducktail spoiler replica.

[poolfullabitchs]

What dealership is that???/

[pcdawg]

I wonder if that lip spoiler is the same as this: http://www.aerocarparts.net/index.php?area_id=1004&page_id=1019&article_id=12&LIMIT=
The pic is small and not really clear on angles of that spoiler. From the distance it looks like the one above or even like a real ducktail spoiler replica.

That is the spoon replica. Got the same one and its pretty much the same size as what i have.

[Carbon]

heres the ebay one:
Ebay Spoiler (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PAINTED-ACURA-TSX-TRUNK-LIP-SPOILER-04-05-06-07_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33638QQihZ019QQitemZ 290078729264QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)

[Carbon]

Theres this one also:
Ebay Spoiler #2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Acura-04-UP-TSX-4drs-Mu-Style-Trunk-Spoiler-07-Sale_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33638QQihZ007QQite mZ170077317198QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)

[confusedjojo]

i dunno that doesnt look the same the one on ebay looks like a m3 lip

[confusedjojo]

Here i got a couple of pics of the ducktail EDM style, the guy thats selling them sells them locally by my friends shop. His cost is $170 shipped not painted, if you guys want his email, let me know by PM and you can ask him all about it.

http://www.imagestation.com/4938660/3936426148
http://www.imagestation.com/4938660/3936426119
http://www.imagestation.com/4938660/3936426101
http://www.imagestation.com/4938660/3936426086
http://www.imagestation.com/4938660/3936426068
http://www.imagestation.com/4938660/3936426050
http://www.imagestation.com/4938660/3936426033

[Peregrine]

^^ that is NOT an EDM Ducktail spoiler my friend.

And the one in post #24 is clearly M3, and in post #25 Mugen replica.

[confusedjojo]

i didnt say i had a edm ducktail, i said its a edm style which very similar. obviously the 1st spoiler is a m3 style cause thats all that delsa sells for our tsx and the mugen one is so easy to tell cause its so ugly.

[Peregrine]

... i said its a edm style which very similar.
...

No, it's NOT very similar. It's VERY different.

[MemphisRheins]

Pete, your the Ducktail spoiler conisuer... :rollseyes: I know its expensive, but just go ahead and buy one already pete

[Peregrine]

:laugh:
not for the price they want for it. Somebody's bound to come up with a replica sooner or later. That's what I'm waiting for, at least.

[Peregrine]

OK, I finally found something that supposedly immitates the real Honda Ducktail spoiler: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=8038165643&rd=1,1

http://edrivestore.com/lib/prods/a283.jpg
http://edrivestore.com/lib/prods/a283b.jpg
http://edrivestore.com/lib/prods/a283c.jpg


I asked them for more pics, but they haven't responded. On the picture it looks like the ducktail, but then when the actual unpainted spoiler is shown it looks slightly differnet. So maybe they just used a photo of a real ducktail and theirs may be slightly different. Or maybe it just looks like it's a bit different.

Here is the real Ducktail spoiler:
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6168
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6169
Anyone want to try it and send us some pics of what it looks like? 1blue1.gif

[code85]

I wouldnt mind trying it but I dont have money right now =(

[chuson]

The shipping is EXPENSIVE

[robert_tg]

Rather odd this replica is coming out of...of all places...little Greece, :confused: i'm not implying any negativity...
I mean usually one would expect this to be made somewhere in SE Asia.

and yeah the shipping is crazy

[Benz]

That picture is taken from a dealer. I wouldn't trust that ebay seller until he show the actual picture of the spoiler on a car

[kyotousa]

^^^
exactly, you'd be pissed if it's xenonspecialist spoiler...
This seller probably just thought they are the same part.

[Peregrine]

these are all exactly my concerns...
but the spoiler (the actual unpainted one) defiitely looks very different from all other we have seen so far. And it does very closely resemble the ductail one. My only concern is the forward corners. They look slightly too rounded as opposed to the real ducktail. But maybe it's just a picture.
Plus the real ducktail is mounted using bolts. And this one... who knows...

[Peregrine]

well, according to their generic instructions (http://edrivestore.com/instructions/manuals/a283.pdf), it does mount with bolts, so who knows, maybe it's an exact replica but the picture looks bad

[Peregrine]

I wrote to them again asking for pictures. This time I wrote an email and indicated this thread. So hopefully they notice there is interest and maybe will work with us a bit to get better sales...

[infamous206]

hmmm. any update?

[pcdawg]

For u guys info, there's a guy that's in the local toronto area that said he will order the ducktail lip spoiler and make replicas of them.

There's a huge post of it over at the other site in regards to a tsx replica kit in the Parts N performance department. I think a few toronto members might meet up to check out his work later this week

[code85]

no way!... if thats the case I'm gonna get one for sure.

[PJS]

Yes, supershyguy on A'zine is having me order him one from a local Honda dealer and shipping it over to him.
I imagine he may have it and a mould made within a fortnight or so. So maybe the first replicas by the end of the month?

[pcdawg]

Sounds good. Perhaps he'll get more kits and make more replicas of other stuff. But i guess it all depends on demand.

[MemphisRheins]

Cool, looks like we might finally see some ducktails around here, god knows you guys have been wanting them long enough... actually hell I kinda want one

[SeanS627]

Cool, looks like we might finally see some ducktails around here, god knows you guys have been wanting them long enough... actually hell I kinda want one

i would have ordered the real thing, but they don't come PWP and I don't want to spend that kind of money and then have to re-paint it

[Peregrine]

no way!... if thats the case I'm gonna get one for sure.

:sprint:

Excellent news !!
Thanks!

[Peregrine]

as far as update on this one, just as FYI, here is the response I got and my original email to them. But regardless of their assurances, unless I see better pics of the thing, I'm not getting it.

-----------------------
Dear [Peregrine]

Thank you for your interest in edrive store.

We officially supply many Honda dealers in Europe with the specific spoiler. That can guaranty the exact replica of the spoiler.



At that moment we do not have more detailed picture.



Our offer for members will be as follow:

For 10 spoilers order you will get + 1 without charge. ( You pay 10 and you get 11)

If we ship all the spoilers in one carton is extra discount from the air mail transport. 9 (I need your Address).



Please do not hesitate to contact us in case of any other queries.



Thank you for your kind attention.



Best Regards

edrive store

Online sales Dept.




On 3/5/07, Peregrine Falcon <xxx@xxx> wrote:
Hello,
I'm a TSXCLUB.com forum technical moderator (ID: Peregrine). We are currently discussing one of your spoilers on the forum: http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17410

I am personally very interested in the Honda Ducktail spoiler. And your replica seems to be the exact replica of that spoiler. A lot of our members would be interested in getting your spoilers if this turns out so. But we need better pictures to judge if your replica is as good as the original.

Please respond with more pictures.
Thank you.

[Peregrine]

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[cryo]

Actually, after a closer examination, it is possible that the pictures with the ducktail mounted, and unpainted, represent the same thing.. The perspective creates a false impression about a sharp edge on the mounted picture, but on a closer look, the edges could be also rounded.

I wrote to the dealer asking a few questions related to the item, payment and shipment, I didn't receive any answer yet (4-5h passed, working day, same time zone - on e-bay they advertised a 30 min response time for mails), but i keep hoping....

I'm thinking about purchasing it, if the answers are satisfactory. Anyway, the ad/store looks quite professional, it also includes a manual for mounting/painting (not sure how accurate is, I have the feeling that it's one manual for all products). The shipping costs are quite large (I can understand 65$ from Greece to US, but from Greece to Romania.. c'mon), I asked also some quotations for courier transport.

I'll keep you posted...

[Peregrine]

^^^ yes! please keep us posted :)

[Supershyguy]

Yes, supershyguy on A'zine is having me order him one from a local Honda dealer and shipping it over to him.
I imagine he may have it and a mould made within a fortnight or so. So maybe the first replicas by the end of the month?


Yes should be done by then. it depends on when I get it though :jump:

[PJS]

Didn't get a chance to organise it today - sorry! But IIRC, if it's not a stock item (more than likely) then it's only 24 hrs away from Honda Belgium to the dealership.
I'll definitely do it tomorrow and should get it off on Friday as planned.

[DVS]

Where can I buy the duckbill spoiler at? please don't tell me Macau, Singapore, Iraq, Nigeria lol

[PJS]

Patience!
Supershyguy will be your saviour by the end of the month or so.

Then you can all have this:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pj.skelton/Honda/ducktail.jpg

[pcdawg]

I have to say. That is a pretty nice spoiler!!

[PJS]

I think the screw mounting helps pull the boot and spoiler together better than double-sided sticky tape alone does.
Of course, once done, it's on there permanently.

[xjohnkdoex]

is that the euro accord OEM spoiler?

[PJS]

Yep

[Peregrine]

Where can I buy the duckbill spoiler at? please don't tell me Macau, Singapore, Iraq, Nigeria lol

:) it's ducktail, not duckbill. I believe duckbill is what chyllintsx used to have, very uncommon.

[Peregrine]

(merged threads)

[cryo]

i don't think the original ducktail is mounted with screws... the dealer said that probably it's using adhesive / sticky tape. I don't see how you could use screws with that....

P.S. the replica that started the thread is also mounted with adhesive, not screws.

Anyway, this is the answer i got to my mail:


Dear Friend

Please found in blue our answer.

I have a few questions regarding the item, payment and
shipment.

1. Is the mounting of this item done using screws, or
adhesive tape?

The mounting of this item is using silicone (Betalink )

2. The mounted image looks quite different from the
standalone pictures of the part. Can you provide more
pictures of the mounted part?

The specific image is with our spoiler. We supply many Honda dealers
with the specific spoiler.
No other available pictures.

3. Payment: is Visa Electron card type supported? If
not, is Direct Bank Transfer supported, and what are
the procedure and details?

Payment by paypal only.

4. Shipping: Cost of shipping of $65 to Romania (the
same as for USA) looks a bit exagerated. Please
confirm that this is the real cost, and what are the
costs through international couriers (including
insurrance). The shipping cost is including insurance.

The cost of transport is standard charge from the air mail
we can not change that.


Thank you in advance, and I am looking forward to your
early reply.

Thank you for your kind attention.

Best Regards

Edrive store


I asked a friend from Germany to order it for me (sadly, we do not have Paypal in Romania, so ebay is normally out of reach). When I will get it, I'll update you.

P.S. PJS, looking at the picture you posted above, I think it's quite similar to what the greeks guys are selling.... you can see the "rounded" edges.

[xjohnkdoex]

well these are the pics i took today
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/eurofocus/DSC00453.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/eurofocus/DSC00452.jpg
they told me it would be 375.00 painted. i am gonna see if we can get a a lower price if we have more buyers. like a group buy


did you go to paragon acura in queens?

b/c when i was shopping for my car, i saw an 06 with a very similar spoiler on it. in fact, the car was pretty loaded. window visors, lo/jack, tints, spoiler, etc...i tried asking some of the guys that worked there where the spoiler came from and no one really knew. they were asking for $34k for that car that was 1 year old and was already getting some surface/paint damage from sitting in the lot for so long.

[Peregrine]

^^ yeah, we already covered this in the beginning of this thread. The above black spoiler is not ducktail but some other aftermarket type.

[Peregrine]

i don't think the original ducktail is mounted with screws... the dealer said that probably it's using adhesive / sticky tape. I don't see how you could use screws with that....

P.S. the replica that started the thread is also mounted with adhesive, not screws.

Anyway, this is the answer i got to my mail:


I asked a friend from Germany to order it for me (sadly, we do not have Paypal in Romania, so ebay is normally out of reach). When I will get it, I'll update you.

P.S. PJS, looking at the picture you posted above, I think it's quite similar to what the greeks guys are selling.... you can see the "rounded" edges.

Well, I've already received several confirmations that the original Ducktail spoiler mounts with bolts. So if this replica mounts with silicone, then it's not an exact replica. Which further supports my belief that their response to your question 2 is a huge BS to get customers. The blue mounted spoiler is definitely OEM Ducktail. If it was theirs, why wouldn't they be able to get more shots of it... lol. They probably made this poor replica they're showing, then went to the nearest Honda dealer and made a pic of one of floor cars for sale with an OEM Ductail spoiler.

[puiyingbread]

^ wahahaha, very very true~~~
i wont trust anything unless i see the picture

[PJS]

Where can I buy the duckbill spoiler at? please don't tell me Macau, Singapore, Iraq, Nigeria lol

OEM or replica?
If the latter, then wait patiently for a wee while and SSG will have one for you.
If you want OEM, then I'd happily organise one for you too - $550 inc. 3 day shipping, tracked/signed for.
Remember the OEM is pre-painted, but there's no PWP option, unfortunately.

[iVTEC2002]

these are all exactly my concerns...
but the spoiler (the actual unpainted one) defiitely looks very different from all other we have seen so far. And it does very closely resemble the ductail one. My only concern is the forward corners. They look slightly too rounded as opposed to the real ducktail. But maybe it's just a picture.
Plus the real ducktail is mounted using bolts. And this one... who knows...
Why not just get the SPOON ducktail as its small like the OEM ACCORD version?

[puiyingbread]

^not every one have enough $$ to mod their car....

[xjohnkdoex]

i think i might break down and the get the spoon. it has a little more curves than the generic one in the pics above and i think it looks nice on the trunk.

[cryo]

I just came from the post office, with my new wing.... remember, the one from the greek guys. I'm posting below some pictures of it (unmounted, for the moment).
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/cryolite/DSC00289.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/cryolite/DSC00290.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/cryolite/DSC00291.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/cryolite/DSC00292.jpg

It looks great to me, can't wait to see it on. The finish is very smooth, looks much better than the M3-like lip, and... in the installation package, i have 2 screws (besides the betalink silicone glue and a few other things). I still have to figure out the installation mode (since the manual i got is in greek, and it looks quite generic - anyway they have the english manual on their site), and whether to paint it before or after mounting... Packaging was very nice also, big box with carefully sealed plastic bags for the wing and the mounting accessories... The overall impression I have is very good.

Let's see it in action :D

[SeanS627]

^^ yeah, we already covered this in the beginning of this thread. The above black spoiler is not ducktail but some other aftermarket type.

it might be the new TL-S wing as well

just another spoiler out there people might try putting on a car

[inkedup]

cryo, you definetly should paint it before its mounted. You could set it on your trunklid beforehand just to make sure there is no major fitment issues but Im sure you probably have already done that.

Im looking forward to seeing pics of it painted and mounted.

[Peregrine]

Excellent news, cryo :thumbsup:
Thanks!
It definitely looks from the top and sides like the EDM Ducktail.
How does the bottom of the spoiler look? Does it have bolts? And how is the fitment?

[SeanS627]

Excellent news, cryo :thumbsup:
Thanks!
It definitely looks from the top and sides like the EDM Ducktail.
How does the bottom of the spoiler look? Does it have bolts? And how is the fitment?

and is made from fiberglass or polyurethane???

[cryo]

here's the bottom side:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/cryolite/DSC00299.jpg

I didn't try to fit it, today it was raining.... I hope I will have the chance tomorrow
According to the seller, it's made of polyurethane.

[SeanS627]

looks to have spots for the bolts

glad to see it's made of poly

[Peregrine]

so far so good :)
Let us know how it fits when it stops raining.
THANKS!

[cryo]

Fitment looks good...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/cryolite/DSCF0330small.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/cryolite/DSCF0329small.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/cryolite/DSCF0327small.jpg

[Peregrine]

There are no gaps anywhere? On the pictures it looks like there might be a gap in the middle between the lip and trunk.
Can you do few more shots from other angles, how it looks from the rear, from farther away, etc...
thank you.

[cryo]

Tomorrow I hope to leave it at the paintshop. Peregrine, "fitment" is much said... i just dropped it on the trunk and took some snapshots. I'm pretty sure that after it's screwed in and glued up, there will be no gap... After all, it's betalink silicone glue :)

[Peregrine]

got ya. Yeah, defeinitely do some more pics from all angles once it's all done and permanently attached. Can't wait. :)

[SeanS627]

got ya. Yeah, defeinitely do some more pics from all angles once it's all done and permanently attached. Can't wait. :)

seems we might have found us a ducktail

:jump:

[Supershyguy]

I just ordered an original one. making a replica and its probably going to be around $120 or so plus shipping

[rbkhockey29]

Looks pretty good, i might be a player for one. How much did they say it would be to paint etc...

[Peregrine]

I just ordered an original one. making a replica and its probably going to be around $120 or so plus shipping

As long as including shipping it'll be less than from those Greeks from ebay :)

[bluexcrush]

canadian replica vendor ftw ;)

[SeanS627]

I just ordered an original one. making a replica and its probably going to be around $120 or so plus shipping

fiberglass or poly?

[PJS]

Fiber - haven't you been paying attention to the "Would there be interest?" thread on Azine?

:rotz:

[SeanS627]

Fiber - haven't you been paying attention to the "Would there be interest?" thread on Azine?

:rotz:

i have but get lost in all the bickering

must have passed right passed it

i would hope for a poly version though

[PJS]

Isn't the Greek one poly?
Might investigate it further myself.

[SeanS627]

Isn't the Greek one poly?
Might investigate it further myself.

exactly...i'm waiting to see his pics once it's installed

fiber is nice, but poly is so much better

[cryo]

today i'm supposed to have it installed. This means tonight we might have pictures....

[puiyingbread]

^ can not wait for any more.....

[cryo]

installed it, right now the glue is drying out, i will pick the car from the bodyshop later this afternoon.

I can say until now that the fitment is not perfect: the curvature of the trunk is slightly different from the curvature of the wing. The effect is that if you align the corners to the edge of the trunk, the middle of the wing will be slightly "in", reported to the trunk edge. However, my first impression was that this applied only to the bottom part; the top part seemed to "extend" to cover what was remaining from the trunk. Again, I have to examine it more closely, but overall, I think it looks good.

Pics and closer examination, tonight. Stay tuned :)

[PJS]

The OEM unit is exactly the same, IIRC. Strange why Honda decided to do that, as well as curtail the ends so as not to meet the edge of the boot lid on either side.
Still, that's car manufacturer's for you - daft as a brush and as mad a bunch of frogs.

[Supershyguy]

fiberglass or poly?

Felxable Fiber glass for that item, and it will be perfect fit

just got the original yesterday =)

[Supershyguy]

Yes, supershyguy on A'zine is having me order him one from a local Honda dealer and shipping it over to him.
I imagine he may have it and a mould made within a fortnight or so. So maybe the first replicas by the end of the month?

ya shipping would be pretty cheap for me so its going to be cheaper then the ebay one for sure

[PJS]

Quality counts first and foremost Pete - don't do yourself out of profit for the sake of what a few on here have said.
You're not a charity service - if you cost the same or more than the Greek, then so be it.

[cryo]

And the long awaited moment arrived.... at last

Here's the result:

http://upload7.postimage.org/446568/DSC00301.jpg (http://upload7.postimage.org/446568/photo_hosting.html) http://upload7.postimage.org/446573/DSC00302.jpg (http://upload7.postimage.org/446573/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload7.postimage.org/446576/DSC00303.jpg (http://upload7.postimage.org/446576/photo_hosting.html) http://upload7.postimage.org/446583/DSC00304.jpg (http://upload7.postimage.org/446583/photo_hosting.html)

http://upload7.postimage.org/446586/DSC00305.jpg (http://upload7.postimage.org/446586/photo_hosting.html) http://upload7.postimage.org/446592/DSC00306.jpg (http://upload7.postimage.org/446592/photo_hosting.html)

http://upload7.postimage.org/446597/DSC00307.jpg (http://upload7.postimage.org/446597/photo_hosting.html) http://upload7.postimage.org/446604/DSC00308.jpg (http://upload7.postimage.org/446604/photo_hosting.html) http://upload7.postimage.org/446611/DSC00309.jpg (http://upload7.postimage.org/446611/photo_hosting.html)http://upload7.postimage.org/446621/DSC00310.jpg (http://upload7.postimage.org/446621/photo_hosting.html)

A few coments:
- there is a small gap in the middle, as you can see. I believe this could only be prevented through a third screw in the middle.
- as I suspected, the curvature problem is not actually a problem... the upper side of the wing follows indeed the contour of the trunk, while the lower edge does not. I guess that's the design
- ignore the dust and ducktape remains...

Overall, I like how it looks. I'll try to take some better general pictures tomorrow (after I get my windows tinted). These were made with a camera phone...

I think it was worth it...

[Peregrine]

Excellent feedback cryo! Thank You!

I guess I'll wait now for Supershyguy's version to make up my mind :)

[PJS]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pj.skelton/Honda/greek_copy.jpg

Not very impressive looking! :thumbsdow

[cryo]

it's a close up, the gap is smaller than it seems in this picture. Anyway, this is mostly related to the bodyshop doing the job, than the actual wing. To make a comparison, look at the gap between the trunk and the body (vertical one): it looks like the Great Canyon in this picture, however you all know the reality.

[PJS]

I'm not referring to the gap - look at the end of the spoiler in your own big picture of the same shot.
Don't tell me you didn't notice that?

[slammed06tsx]

that spoiler has cellulite,!!!!!!!!!

[cryo]

ah, that? you mean the apparent imperfections? I saw it too, but it's in the picture only. Probably because of dust / shadow / remains of ducktape. The real thing looks smooth and shiny. I will try to take some better pictures (with a real camera, not phone)

[PJS]

That's definitely not duck tape remnants nor dust. It's in the item or poor prep work by whomever painted it.
A similar shot of the other side would show whether its the same (potentially likely if a moulding issue) or not.
Looking at images of the other side, it does look like there's a line/indentation on the left side.
If you'd taken more shots of the spoiler unpainted, from different angles than you did, then we'd know whether this is just a poor paint job or a quality issue from the supplier.

[chuson]

I think PJS is right, it's the workmanship (Mostly paint job) problems. My replica spoon was like that as well, I returned to the paint shop and ask them to re-do it, none of those in the second time when I got it back.

Do you know what do they use to glue/doubleside tape it?? I like how's there's screw on both side so it held down pretty nicely. Mine doesn't have it so it's all depends on those 3M doubleside tape (thick one for auto use), but the result ain't great.

[cryo]

I got a few other pictures this morning.

There are indeed a few paintjob problems, but you have to stick your nose 2 cm from the wing for them to be clearly visible (like the photo in question).

http://upload7.postimage.org/456001/DSCF0333.jpg (http://upload7.postimage.org/456001/photo_hosting.html) http://upload7.postimage.org/456031/DSCF0334.jpg (http://upload7.postimage.org/456031/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload7.postimage.org/456042/DSCF0336.jpg (http://upload7.postimage.org/456042/photo_hosting.html)

Ignore the ice and dirt on the car (can't wash it yet).

The glue used was (as I mentioned before) Betalink silicone adhesive (I heard that it's the best adhesive for car parts), and it came in the original package. What didn't come in the original package was the primer to be used before glueing (the wing itself was primed before painting, but the bodyshop had to aply also some primer on the trunk)

As I said, the result is not absolutely perfect, there are some minor paintjob problems (and I have to admit that i dropped a bit the wing before getting it painted/mounted :oops: ), but for one quarter of the OEM price, I'm happy with it.

In my opinion, it's a good alternative. Want perfect? Pay the big bucks :)

[PJS]

Ah, well that possibly explains what I pointed out.
I was convinced it looked like the manufacturing of the item was lacking a bit in the QC dept.
As you point out - for a lot less than OEM money, it's worthy of consideration.
It will be interesting to see SSG's once it's done.

[Supershyguy]

ya my mold is done, will show you guys test fit pictures asap.

I cant wait nether

[pcdawg]

Nice...should look good as it not as hard to make like the lipkits.

[HoRRo]

Looks nice, but I would've preferred if it covered the trunk more. Looks like there's like 1/2 inch on each side....

[Peregrine]

any way you can "improve" the OEM design, as suggested in posts above, SSG ?

[BAYAREATSX06]

Yeah I just bought a Decklid Spoiler off of ebay...Cheap price but I know that other people have bought these off of ebay and they have been happy with their purchase for the price...I figure that if its a piece of crap I can return it and get most of my money back. You cant go wrong for 70 bucks. The only thing I'm worried about is the lip looks thinner than cryo's lip. Ill update you guys and let you know if there is a good cheaper alternative.

[code85]

the one you were looking at isnt the ducktail lip its the M3 style lip spoiler thats why it looks thinner.

[Peregrine]

yeah, that has been around for ages, and believe me, by now we know all "alternatives" on ebay. It's the actual OEM Honda "Ducktail" replica spoiler we're waiting for.

[puiyingbread]

^ +1

[etonek]

So exactly how much was the OEM lip spoiler from overseas? I can find and order the part from a German dealer for $376.422, but only God knows how much shipping would end up.

It takes a lot of work to translate the website also so I can't pretend to purchase to see the final price.

[PJS]

About $150 on 3-5 day with insurance and tracking.
And that's presuming the price includes German VAT @ 18%, IIRC.
Export sales should be cheaper as you don't pay the VAT - but it all depends on whether they will entertain doing a one off, especially as someone has to go and fill out the Customs declaration at the Post Office, which will be the cheapest method.
I doubt they would have a courier account with discounted rates.
I sorted SSG out with his, so he ended up having to swallow the UK VAT @ 17.5% on the item.

[etonek]

About $150 on 3-5 day with insurance and tracking.
And that's presuming the price includes German VAT @ 18%, IIRC.
Export sales should be cheaper as you don't pay the VAT - but it all depends on whether they will entertain doing a one off, especially as someone has to go and fill out the Customs declaration at the Post Office, which will be the cheapest method.
I doubt they would have a courier account with discounted rates.
I sorted SSG out with his, so he ended up having to swallow the UK VAT @ 17.5% on the item.

Wow, thanks for the quick and informative response. I guess getting one from Germany isn't even close to practical.

[PJS]

It all depends on whether you want exclusivity of OEM ducktail, or can live with a copy that SSG will hopefully have sorted soon.
From the thread over on A'zine, he's having a slight problem of some sort.
So, either hang tight or pony up, depending on your disposition and/or funds.

[etonek]

It all depends on whether you want exclusivity of OEM ducktail, or can live with a copy that SSG will hopefully have sorted soon.
From the thread over on A'zine, he's having a slight problem of some sort.
So, either hang tight or pony up, depending on your disposition and/or funds.

I just read the 27 pages on the other site. Hopefully it turns out well.

[chuson]

Can anyone provide me some info on WHERE to get BetaLink Silicone adhensive K1? I've tried to search around online but no result?

[puiyingbread]

^ u mean a german honda dealer?
shipping will be about 100-200

[cryo]

careful, i think it's euro, not USD ;) It's the official retail price (give or take a few euro)
So multiply with about 25% (euro-dollar conversion rate here, don't know about US), and you will end up with almost 600 USD.... not worth it in my opinion

[etonek]

I did the currency conversion to get that price. By no means worth it. Lets just hope SSG can pull through.

[Peregrine]

lol, yeah, we've figured that one out 2 years ago. Welcome to the club ;)

[chuson]

SSG told me after shipping and custom, it costs him $700CDN for the Euro-R ducktail spoiler.... it's insane.

[Supershyguy]

lol test fit and if fits great. just need a few touch up

[Racing Gear]

lol test fit and if fits great. just need a few touch up

You do some good work! I was browsing through your web site and noticed the location being in Oakville...so once the spoiler is finished, you would be selling direct locally or you only sell through distributors/stores?

I live in Brampton which is why I am asking...

[chuson]

lol test fit and if fits great. just need a few touch up
Peter, I have took off my replica Spoon spoiler, and broke it... lol

So I need a new one, my trunk is clean now so it's ready for test fit. LMK if we can meet this weekend.

[Peregrine]

lol test fit and if fits great. just need a few touch up

ufff... I was beginning to worry there :)

[chuson]

I just pick up SSG''s replica Ducktail spoiler. It looks great, and fits great. It has the 5mm space on each side of the trunk, as the original ducktail spoiler.

The spoiler sits on the trunk perfectly, I just need to sand the bottom of the spoiler (driver side) a bit, everything else is great. Can't wait to get it paint along w/ the front lip.

[kyotousa]

I just pick up SSG''s replica Ducktail spoiler. It looks great, and fits great. It has the 5mm space on each side of the trunk, as the original ducktail spoiler.

The spoiler sits on the trunk perfectly, I just need to sand the bottom of the spoiler (driver side) a bit, everything else is great. Can't wait to get it paint along w/ the front lip.

so where did you get it?

[pcdawg]

SSG is in the toronto area. SO was chuson so thats why he was able to pick up the stuff so quick.

Take pics of the raw unpaint piece chuson!

[chuson]

SSG is in the toronto area. SO was chuson so thats why he was able to pick up the stuff so quick.

Take pics of the raw unpaint piece chuson!
I want to, but I can't. My gf took my DC so I can't shoot any pix. I will see if I have a chance tomorrow, if not, you can see the finish product on Fri or later.

[Racing Gear]

Is this new spoiler a "screw on" type or "tape/adhesive" type?

[MemphisRheins]

:worthless:

[chuson]

Is this new spoiler a "screw on" type or "tape/adhesive" type?
It's a mold from the original, so you can see the "bolt hole" on the spoiler. If you really wanna screw it you can, but I think 3M Tape or Silcone Adhensive will be good enough, since it sits perfectly on the trunk...

[Racing Gear]

It's a mold from the original, so you can see the "bolt hole" on the spoiler. If you really wanna screw it you can, but I think 3M Tape or Silcone Adhensive will be good enough, since it sits perfectly on the trunk...


Thanks Chuson.

I was more worried about protection from theft then fit. However, a "bolt on" kind also always seems to close the gap between the trunk & the spoiler the best.

By the way, did you ever do anything with your fog lights? I recall dealing with you on & Takuto on TAC about a possible retrofit project...

I can't wait to get the TSX off of my dad (expectig late summer)...all the reading is getting me real excited! I am already sourcing for parts as you can see!

[chuson]

Hey Racing Gear...

Don't worry about the theft, they won't able to steal it. If they do, it will be most likely broken in half. You won't believe how strong those 3M tape/ adhensive silicone is IF it sits on a perfectly clean surface with good bonding.

No, I dump that Projector Foglight project, too much work and I don't have time on that. I just bought a new set of fog from E-bay, and got a H11 HID kit along w/ it.

[Peregrine]

Hey Racing Gear...

Don't worry about the theft, they won't able to steal it. If they do, it will be most likely broken in half. You won't believe how strong those 3M tape/ adhensive silicone is IF it sits on a perfectly clean surface with good bonding.
...

you'd be surprised what 2 feet of nylon string can do :D
...gone in 5 sec.

lol

[Racing Gear]

you'd be surprised what 2 feet of nylon string can do :D
...gone in 5 sec.

lol


^^^

Yup, I know!

Actually, a thief stole my dad's "bolted on" accord spoiler few years ago so is they want it bad enough, there is nothing you can really do to stop them...

[code85]

I dont think any thieves would try to steal it, its not that flashy only people within clubs or car enthusiasts would know that it came from europe and it cost an arm and a leg to get it.

My M3 lip spoiler is lifted a little and no one tried stealing it.

[Peregrine]

that's settled then. When I get mine, I'm putting chain and lock on it. Can't trust you ppl
wrrrr...

:laugh:

[narci]

won't be easy to take off with 3M tape.

When I totalled my C36, I had a Zender rear ducktail spoiler, similiar to the TSX one, I tried to take it off the car but when I tried to rip it off, the spoiler snapped, about 4 inches of it, and took the paint off the trunk .

[Peregrine]

lol,
again, it's not the strength but cunning.
Get some thin fishing line (nylon string) and simply pull under the spoiler from one end to the other. I guarantee the 3M tape will separate like a charm.

With the skill you guys are showing, maybe I won't have to chain my spoiler, after all, he he.

[narci]

lol,
again, it's not the strength but cunning.
Get some thin fishing line (nylon string) and simply pull under the spoiler from one end to the other. I guarantee the 3M tape will separate like a charm.

With the skill you guys are showing, maybe I won't have to chain my spoiler, after all, he he.

I did that..no go...woudn't come off. I even used a screwdriver as well after.

[chuson]

lol,
again, it's not the strength but cunning.
Get some thin fishing line (nylon string) and simply pull under the spoiler from one end to the other. I guarantee the 3M tape will separate like a charm.

With the skill you guys are showing, maybe I won't have to chain my spoiler, after all, he he.
lol... Maybe my fishing line sucks...
But seriously, when I tried to take off my old replica Spoon spoiler, I used the fishing line. I had it for 3 or 4 feet long, going back and forth from one end to the other so it has like 8 or 9 string of it, and it's about 6 inches long. I tied both end to a screwdriver and tried to pull the spoiler out, it went to the middle and it snapped.

I found out if the 3M tape didn't bond well with the paint, then it's easy to pull it off. If it's stuck there for good, the fishing line might not able to do it.

Forgot to mention, the Spoon/or EDM spoiler are way bigger than the M3 spoiler, so there's alot more tape thus it's harder to pull it off. The tape is @ the edge of the spoiler and it's a rectangle shape...

[narci]

chuson, clear your mail box.

[chuson]

chuson, clear your mail box.
No way, I have 59 msgs in there and I'm not gonna delete... lol

Please send your msg to my E-Mail (super_jason_chu@hotmail.com) . Thanks

[pcdawg]

^

59 Message?? LOL

Why dont u just copy n paste all your messages and save thme onto Word or notepad or something?

[EX ITR]

Use braided fishing line, just like dental floss. Very strong.

[Peregrine]

I did that..no go...woudn't come off. I even used a screwdriver as well after.

you guys are giving me hope :laugh:

or are you trying to pull me into false security :nervous:

lol

[narci]

you guys are giving me hope :laugh:

or are you trying to pull me into false security :nervous:

lol

hahaha chuson's got it right. My old Zender ducktail was thick so i had to put 2 strips of 3M tape on it. Maybe that's why it would not come off haha.

[Mugen]

Hello everybody

The first post on the forum, so introduction would be the right thing to start with.

My name is Nick
I'm from Holland, and hopefully i'll get my type s accord this week, this might sound weird to you, cause you're used to hear other names for a specific type accord.
well the type s is the 2.4 litre accord, not luxury one, but the sporty one.
got no pics yet, cause it's not mine yet

well anyway, to start of with my first question.

On several websites it sais that the rear spoiler ( high one )
is for the 2006+ accord, but isn't it true that the 2005 accord, acura tsx and the 2006+ accord are all the same on the backside.
i thougt it would fit the 2005 accord as well
need confirmation though

thanks for helping

[PJS]

The wing spoiler with brake light is suitable for all years, IIRC, but your dealer should be able to confirm that.

[iVTEC2002]

you guys are giving me hope :laugh:

or are you trying to pull me into false security :nervous:

lol
Just wanted to share an idea...I tried asking my local HONDA dealer to let me test fit the CIVIC HYBRID lip spoiler and it fits better than the ones shown here. Its just that at the middle portion of the boot lid, the spoiler curves out 2mm more but the edges are slightly longer (+1mm) over our bootlid. Its going at USD$160 here but from what I saw the bolts (9) underneath are removable for glue/doublesided tape application. Its seems the CIVC HYBRID uses them all to mount it! My 2cents worth!

[Peregrine]

do you have a pic of that spoiler??

(you may be starting an entire new trend - epic moment - :D )

[iVTEC2002]

do you have a pic of that spoiler??

(you may be starting an entire new trend - epic moment - :D )
Picture here:
http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/equipment/trunkspoiler/index.html

[narci]

hahah anyone wanna try?

I was looking at the color code...

Civic Hybrid is Sparkle Grey Pearl..anyone know if it's the same grey as CGP?

[Peregrine]

I like that :D

[iVTEC2002]

hahah anyone wanna try?

I was looking at the color code...

Civic Hybrid is Sparkle Grey Pearl..anyone know if it's the same grey as CGP?
That's the problem...I have the color which is what US market calls Carbon Grey Pearl but its known as Graphite Pearl or NH658P in SEA and CIVIC HYBRID doesn't come in that colour which is why I didn't buy it straightaway, still have to fork out $$$ for painting the right colour. :slant:

[Peregrine]

looking at the Civic spoilers, I wonder how the Si Coupe spoiler would look like on the TSX...
I got to stop by my dealer to check them out.
http://www.theh8r.com/images/DSC_0026.jpg

[kyotousa]

it'll look gay...don't do it

[Peregrine]

:laugh:
well, I want to see it for myself first

[code85]

I was just wondering, whats the progress on the lip spoiler? havent heard anything for awhile.

[Peregrine]

my local Honda dealer in Paramus, NJ is crap. He won't take the part out of the box because then he won't be able to sell it. What an ass hole... really, I hate dumb ppl... grrr...

[kyotousa]

my local Honda dealer in Paramus, NJ is crap. He won't take the part out of the box because then he won't be able to sell it. What an ass hole... really, I hate dumb ppl... grrr...

lol you should thank him cuz he just faved you :shiner:

haha jk....you can just ride next to a SI and imagine it.
There are lot of them anway

[Peregrine]

ahh.. hrrr.. yeah, thanks
lol

[SeanS627]

looking at the Civic spoilers, I wonder how the Si Coupe spoiler would look like on the TSX...
I got to stop by my dealer to check them out.
http://www.theh8r.com/images/DSC_0026.jpg

that's mike's(type x) car, just wait until he gets a carbon fiber trunk and then you can take a look at it

this is of course if he does get the CF trunk :grinno:

[Peregrine]

that's mike's(type x) car, just wait until he gets a carbon fiber trunk and then you can take a look at it
...

yeah, I know, I just didn't know he was getting the CF trunk. Mabe I should pm him...

[leejj84]

So whats the deal here? Has shyguy made the EDM ducktail replica successfully? Where can i get one without having to throw down bukku bux?