Mugen 5-Way Adjustable Suspension Kit!

[Trigger]

from King Motorsports (http://www.kingmotorsports.com/product.asp?detail=2265&vehicle=TSX)

Looks like another pricy release from Mugen. No information so far, but hopefully they'll come soon. Very pricy though :D

[Noel]

Anything from Mugen is expensive ... http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Joker]

Anything from Mugen is expensive ... http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif
You get what you pay for ;)
Joker - who is also bias towards Mugen :D

[SAZABI]

sigh.... I was planning on the exhaust and front bumper.... now mugen just screwed my plan... gg

[tony4311]

time for an upgrade joker? :P

[Joker]

time for an upgrade joker? :P
I'm good with the non-adjustable Mugen suspension (awesome) for now, as next up is doing the LSD install.
But you never know what the future holds ;)

[Noel]

There are better options and product quality for the price you pay when buying Mugen when comparing with specialist made JDM products. Mugen in general is good, but I wouldn't say it's the best. In-house developed but not in-house manufactured.

[Bender Unit]

There are better options and product quality for the price you pay when buying Mugen when comparing with specialist made JDM products. Mugen in general is good, but I wouldn't say it's the best. In-house developed but not in-house manufactured.
Good Point !!!
There are other good brand... They made Great Coilcover also with less price. :) I would rather spend the rest of money somewhere else. Just my 0.2 cent. Have a Nice Day ! :bowdown1:

[SAZABI]

Good Point !!!
There are brand like Buddy Club... They made Great Coilcover also with less price. :) I would rather spend the rest of money somewhere else. Just my 0.2 cent. Have a Nice Day !

BU...
buddy club is like 3k cdn... even more money... QQ

[Zigen]

BU...
buddy club is like 3k cdn... even more money... QQ

3k...make sure you don't go there...i got a quote for my friend for $2200 + tax (w/installation)

[SAZABI]

3k...make sure you don't go there...i got a quote for my friend for $2200 + tax (w/installation)

oh where is that Zigen?
adjustable right?
how about w/o installation?

[Zigen]

oh where is that Zigen?
adjustable right?
how about w/o installation?

adjustable ar...i don't know about w/o installation...i don't think they will take much off for installation but you can always ask them...will pm you where.

some guy quoted me $2600 w/o installation... :nono: don't try to rip me off b/c i am a lady...i am not :jeffy:

[SAZABI]

adjustable ar...i don't know about w/o installation...i don't think they will take much off for installation but you can always ask them...will pm you where.

some guy quoted me $2600 w/o installation... :nono: don't try to rip me off b/c i am a lady...i am not :jeffy:

hee... ty... whether they take any off or not w/o installation, I still want to install myself... I don't trust other people work... even those stupid mechanic at Acura...

[Zigen]

hey sazabi - did you get my pm? my computer just die on me

[SAZABI]

hey sazabi - did you get my pm? my computer just die on me

no... no pm from you in my mail box....

hee... wondering what mod you have on ur car now... what colour?

[Zigen]

sorry...no mod yet...pwp 6mt

[Zigen]

pmed u la

i forgot to mention...some guy quoted me $2600+tax without installation... i was like ":nono: don't try to rip me off b/c i am a lady...i might not know as much as you do but i am not :jeffy:" well, of course i didn't say it out loud...

[SAZABI]

sorry...no mod yet...pwp 6mt

6mt... i feel gimp for driving at now lol
which shop quote you 2600?

[Zigen]

6mt... i feel gimp for driving at now lol
which shop quote you 2600?

haha...6mt is nice...love it...so smooth

i rather not tell u the name la...some shop in richmond la...haha

so, are u gonna get them for $2200

[SAZABI]

haha...6mt is nice...love it...so smooth

i rather not tell u the name la...some shop in richmond la...haha

so, are u gonna get them for $2200

will give it some serious thinking...
but I am kind of reluctant to do suspension mod... b/c of the camber at the rear.

[Joker]

will give it some serious thinking...
but I am kind of reluctant to do suspension mod... b/c of the camber at the rear.
Check this out.. no camber kit needed

http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1619

[SAZABI]

Check this out.. no camber kit needed

http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1619

checking... :bowdown1:

wth... you sent me to a boat thread. HEE HEE>...

[Joker]

checking... :bowdown1:

wth... you sent me to a boat thread. HEE HEE>...
Keep reading ;)

[SAZABI]

I read it... but I don't see why camber kit is not needed...
b/c it doesn't change much?
or it doesn't change at all?

[Joker]

I read it... but I don't see why camber kit is not needed...
b/c it doesn't change much?
or it doesn't change at all?
No camber kit was needed, as the drop was only 1". An alignment was required though.
You can read more about this suspension here
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/product.asp?detail=1552&vehicle=TSX

[SAZABI]

yeah... but I am more concern on the tire...
my last car was an accord... I lowered it for 1".... even the stock tire is gone like a bit more than 1 year. the ouside was still good, but the thread inside all gone bye bye.... just b/c of little camber change...

[Bender Unit]

BU...
buddy club is like 3k cdn... even more money... QQ

3K canadian. :rofl: .Are you kidding Me, before you get rip...
go check out AJ, I just got quote today.
$2200 "Installed" & in stock now.

Bender

[SAZABI]

Hee... I didn't ask AJ for exact quote... I just heard it somewhere....
but thx for the info, Zigen and BU.

dang... so much things I can do on this car compare to the old accord...

[Joker]

yeah... but I am more concern on the tire...
my last car was an accord... I lowered it for 1".... even the stock tire is gone like a bit more than 1 year. the ouside was still good, but the thread inside all gone bye bye.... just b/c of little camber change...
A good alignment guy can correct the camber of a 1" drop, so that your tires will wear evenly Saz :thumbsup:

[SAZABI]

A good alignment guy can correct the camber of a 1" drop, so that your tires will wear evenly Saz :thumbsup:

oh, that's cool~
but I am now thinking getting the adjustable, but leave it at stock height (if I can do that). hee hee... just want stiffer ride... I think the stock ride height is good for me.

[Joker]

oh, that's cool~
but I am now thinking getting the adjustable, but leave it at stock height (if I can do that). hee hee... just want stiffer ride... I think the stock ride height is good for me.
It's too bad you are so far away, as I'd love to let you test drive my car with the Mugen suspension Saz.
The ride is much more firm, yet not bouncy. Also, there is less role :D
Joker - who thinks if you drove his car, you'd buy the Mugen suspension for sure ;)

[SAZABI]

hee... joker... I am thinking between buddy club and mugen now...
I love Mugen.... I am a mugen whore.. woot!

but BU and the other guy make their points... mugen don't manufacture those themselves... although the quality should still be good, just that don't have info on who actually make those. I mean, if comptech makes those for mugen I will just give it a middle finger, hee hee....

waiting for mugen adjustable to release now... price should be the same... $2200 buddy club... approximately the same for mugen too (in cdn $)

[Joker]

I love Mugen.... I am a mugen whore.. woot!
mugen don't manufacture those themselves... although the quality should still be good, just that don't have info on who actually make those.
Showa :thumbsup:
Joker - who is also a Mugen whore :D

[Noel]

If we're gonna discuss further on various coilover options from current manufacturers, I'll continue. If this is a brand specific discussion, I'm out.

[SAZABI]

If we're gonna discuss further on various coilover options from current manufacturers, I'll continue. If this is a brand specific discussion, I'm out.

more interested in coilover options....

[Joker]

If we're gonna discuss further on various coilover options from current manufacturers, I'll continue. If this is a brand specific discussion, I'm out.
Please continue :thumbsup:
As much as I am pro Mugen, I am not above looking at all the other options as well :D

[Noel]

Not by any ranking but my choices would definitely include the following list, each with very good opinions across the board. While the JDM performance manufacturers have yet to move heavily into the Accord/TSX CL7-CL9, there will be more choices as the time goes on.

Available - In Production

H&R Racing AG (http://www.hrsprings.com/) - German produced, race proven. Highly recommended for road use and light trackwork/track day sprint events. This is a road bias setup. | Height adjustable only.

Buddy Club Racing (http://www.first-inc.co.jp/buddyclub/) - Race dampers with heavy spring rates, suitable for road use but ideally track work. This is a track bias setup. | Damper rebound and height adjustable.

Phase Racing (http://www.phaseracing.com/) - One of the only few tuners in Japan truly racing/using the CL7 Euro R at this stage, designed primarily for track/competition usage. This is highly recommended for intense track racing conditions. | Damper rebound and height adjustable.

Feels' Honda Twin Cam (http://www.hondatwincam.co.jp/) - Another tuner who has racing emphasis in the CL7/CL9 aftermarket parts development. Selective springs rates available for either road or track setup. | Damper rebound and height adjustable.

Tein Suspension (http://www.tein.co.jp/) - A name familar to all Japan car enthusiasts, available in multiple applications from road use to competition environments. Common application - Type Flex with EDFC (Electronic Damper Force Control) to - Type N1 custom manufactured for GT endurance racing. | Damper rebound, shock rebound and height adjustable.


Not Available - In Development

Spoon Sports (http://www.spoon.jp/) - No stranger to Honda enthusiasts. Spoon is currently participating in eudurance racing with the CL7 Euro R in various scenes around the world, no real parts have been dedicated in their line-up at this stage but watch this space for some real serious performance upgrades.

Endless / Zeal Suspension (http://www.endless-sport.co.jp/product/zealindex.htm) - Another big name in JDM speciality suspension upgrades with a strong racing involvement and background in various JGTC classes. This will be available in multiple applications from road use to competition environments. Road applications - Function series B (B, B2, B6) and X. Race applications - Function series SV (S6 and V6) and Super (SS and SR). | Damper rebound, shock rebound and height adjustable.

[SAZABI]

wow, thx for the info CL9!

I don't want sth too stiff and don't want H&R..
Do u know if Phase gonna be much stiffer than Buddy club?
How about mugen, do you have info on those?

[TSX 'R' US]

Excellent post CL9!! :thumbsup:

[Joker]

Excellent post CL9!! :thumbsup:
I agree 100%!!!
Thank you very much CL9 K24a :thumbsup:

[Noel]

Pleasure http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

SAZABI - If your car is 95% on public roads I would not go with any race orientated coilover setup. I'd use neither the Buddy Club or Phase version for road use. Instead H&R or Mugen would be my choice if you want these few big names.

Can I ask why not H&R? If it's service related I can't say anything but if it's product integrity, it does not surpass the JDM tuners/manufacturers. After all H&R's application is used heavily by Euro Supercars (IE - Lamborghini, Ferrari, Porsche) in racing. While their road/sports design engineers good road comfort matched with a sporty setup for the occasional sprint/track driving with no problems.

In general, always check the spring rates before buying. This heavily dictates the ride comfort and handling regardless of tuner/manufacturer. If you want a fairly comfortable ride comparable with the OEM setup, choose a spring rate combination close to the OEM rating. Likewise, the higher the spring rate, the more bias it will be for purpose track racing.

[SAZABI]

Thx for the info CL9!

I think I will go with either buddy club or mugen if I decide to lower my car.

err... reason I don't like H&R... just b/c I don't like the name and the colour, lol...

buddy club seems a very good choice atm.

thank you~ :)

[cmf]

My buddy clubs are badass, great ride. 15 way adjustable, and I have em dialed in about half way for dampening. Rides pretty much like stock, with room for adjustment.
Don't know conversion rates to CDN, but try calling David at www.randdmotorsports.com
Got mine for 1450 shipped USD. Let him know John told you to call to see if he still had the extra set available.