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TSX69
03-19-2008, 09:25 AM
1st Test Drive: 2009 Acura TSX (http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=6&article_id=6584)
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Bursting with technology, bristling with style, but a few beans short of a burrito.

By Douglas Kott
May 2008

San Diego, California — Undeniably, the new 2009 TSX is one slick package. Its styling has more impact, its width is a full 3 in. greater, its interior is now more "TL Jr." than "Civic Sr." and an optional Technology Package offers concert-hall sound, a world-class navigation system, voice-command technology and XM satellite radio with real-time traffic and weather. Yet its 2.4-liter i-VTEC-modulated inline-4 receives only Oliver Twist-like bumps to its power and torque curves, just enough to offset its 140-lb. weight gain over the last-generation car.

So, with 201 bhp peaking at 7000 rpm and 172 lb.-ft. of torque at 4400 moving a curb weight of 3419 lb., the TSX's acceleration is adequate, yet your throttle foot (assuming for a moment that it could talk) might say, "Please sir, I want some more." Let's guesstimate a 0–60 time slightly south of 8 seconds and a quarter-mile in the mid-15s. Getting to those benchmarks is made tolerable by two excellent transmissions: a 6-speed manual with a light and precise shift action, and a 5-speed Sequential SportShift box, a torque-converter automatic that can be shifted with steering wheel-mounted paddles. And the TSX's EPA numbers are slightly better, the manual car coming in at an estimated 19/28 mpg city/highway.

Yet crossing the TSX off your list based on middling acceleration potential alone would be a mistake, as there are substantial improvements here. That width increase and what Acura calls "Keen Edge" styling bulk up and sharpen the body, and accentuate cues that are still recognizable from the previous generation, (headlights, taillights and general greenhouse shape) but the front grille, in the opinion of most journalists in attendance, is overdone. Pointy bits on the front spoiler lip are adventuresome for Acura, and HID low beams come as standard equipment.

Inside, there's also much to like. Immediately noticeable are the very supportive front seats, whose full and high-reaching side bolsters conjure up visions of the NSX's buckets. Front seat passengers are now about 1½ in. farther apart, so there'll be less elbow-bumping, but the interior doesn't seem much roomier, because the lower dash and door panels appear to wrap a little more tightly around your knees and lower body. A-pillars are a little slimmer for a better view out, and the LED-backlit instrument cluster has floating needles for the speedometer and tach and very upmarket metal-finish bezels. Despite the roofline being about 0.2 in. lower than before, rear-seat head room will accommodate 6-footers, thanks to concave relief in the headliner.

The Technology Package will be a huge hit on the pocketbook (in the $4000 range), but it packages the navigation system, Bluetooth connectivity for phones and all manner of devices, the aforementioned XM-supplied real-time traffic and weather data (one- and three-day forecasts are available, and extreme weather alerts will pop up) and a truly inspirational, 415-watt, 10-speaker audio system. This last item, developed with Panasonic and Grammy-winning producer Elliot Scheiner, plays from conventional CD and DTS discs, satellite or AM/FM radio, MP3 or WMA files and, for absolute cleanest sound, DVD-Audio discs.

But back to dynamics of the mechanical kind. We've always liked the agile feel of the TSX, and while the new car is reasonably sporty, it's not as light on its feet. Wider tires (Michelin Pilot HX MXM4s, size 225/50R-17) offer satisfying steady-state grip, but the extra weight and width of the chassis do reduce the "flingability" factor. And a new electric-assist steering, while one of the best examples of the breed, doesn't quite offer the road feel of the outgoing model's hydraulic system. The new TSX does feel more planted and stable, and road noise is reduced, all the better to enjoy that remarkably good sound system.

So the focus has changed a bit here, a little youth and athleticism traded for more maturity, sophistication and style, with pricing expected to remain about the same — perhaps $29,000 for a very well-equipped base car to maybe $35,000 with the automatic and Technology Package. Is more power on the way? Acura spokespeople remain characteristically tight-lipped, saying only that the TSX's engine bay is large enough to accept a V-6, or a turbo and its plumbing. Hmm, "TSX Type-S" does have a nice ring to it.

HoRRo
03-19-2008, 09:58 AM
Bleh, 140lbs of weight gained, and that's not even for SH-AWD. This isn't looking too promising for the (possible) Type-S.

VorteC
03-19-2008, 10:19 AM
Ouch. Looks like it went for luxury vs. sport.

MyFault05
03-19-2008, 10:24 AM
im not liking the front grill at all, im not really feeling the way the lines are in the back where the bumper meets the quater panel to the rear tire well, and im not really liking the rims :/ Acura... whats going on??? I think im going RSX now that my baby is wrecked....

TSX69
03-19-2008, 10:40 AM
This apparently is a heavier & less nimble car but hopefully they did this to further separate it from the eventual Type S. This seems to market more towards those who want a more comfortable ride like a Mercedes as opposed to those who want performance like a BMW, which the Type S will aim for.

Hopefully I am not giving Acura too much credit on this ...

AcidLotus
03-19-2008, 10:59 AM
Sounds nice. I can't believe they put those craptastic Michelins back on there tho. Acura does need to listen about people's choices in tires as well!

ssm05RSX
03-19-2008, 11:05 AM
Sounds nice. I can't believe they put those craptastic Michelins back on there tho. Acura does need to listen about people's choices in tires as well!

agreed, i think my summer tires get better traction in all weather. lol

im not a big fan of the new TSX, I am hoping for a Type S. or I guess I may be going with a different car as my next.

lcrazyaznl
03-19-2008, 11:47 AM
http://flickr.com/photos/10728020@N02/sets/72157604164015367/
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interior pictures and exterior shots i found on flickr...

I'm not liking that grill but its growing on me...

TSX69
03-19-2008, 12:35 PM
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devore
03-19-2008, 12:36 PM
Overall I like the refined style of the car and brings it back to competing with the latest BMWs and Lexus IS's in terms of looks, IMO anyway. I don't really like the front grille, and the foglights in the pictures available don't look properly integrated.

Some of the interior improvements are pretty nice too - the center console looks more functional, with the screen recessed to prevent glare, and the inclusion of a much, much better "joystick" than the totally useless ones on the previous models. The seats also look much more substantial.

I am a bit disappointed it's not any more powerful though, but then again like someone else said, this helps to differentiate it from a future Type S.

kdUbz
03-19-2008, 03:00 PM
the new styling is growing on me especially from those flickr pics...however, underpowered offering with the bigger body needs to be addressed!

The Sporty Xtra
03-19-2008, 07:13 PM
It looks nice, but nothing really excites me about it over the current model. The base engine is an intentional choice by Acura to focus on customers who want a nice car that gets good economy; most of the competition is in the mid 20's on the highway. There will be a Type-S for those who want more power, or better yet, buy a Pontiac G8 GT for about the same price if that's your thing. The Type S with SH-AWD I would bet will end up around the same price as an Evo X; that should make for an interesting comparison. To me, it is more of a shame that they gave up the nimble handling character to make a more conservative sedan.

bluefang08
03-19-2008, 07:15 PM
Type-S common Type-S. Maybe 2010. :woot:

tsx4life
03-19-2008, 08:25 PM
ah not liking the new model....

MyFault05
03-19-2008, 11:48 PM
im actually liking the interior alot now that i seen better pictures of it, but man, im sorry acura/honda.... whats going on with the exterior body? how lame.

:donno:

(__________)
03-20-2008, 01:42 AM
The interior looks real good but did they have Saturn do the exterior? :confused: Honda's have really started to look like crap ever since about 2001

Draconis77
04-13-2008, 07:05 AM
The interior looks real good but did they have Saturn do the exterior? :confused: Honda's have really started to look like crap ever since about 2001
IMO they looked like crap prior to 2001.

yisrael42
04-15-2008, 05:29 PM
its funny how much we sound like our IS300 buddies did about a year and some ago... I really think Acura's decision to go more luxury and less sporty was dictated by Lexus getting there first.

Those guys were really unhappy about Lexus's move away from the enthusiast market as well... but after that I was kind of expecting the TSX to follow suit.

That-TSX-Kid
04-15-2008, 11:49 PM
I'm liking the interior, just not the exterior...