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Joker
08-01-2004, 02:55 PM
The authorities in New York are warning residents and businesses that al-Qaeda may be planning a fresh suicide attack in the city.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3943405.stm
Ray
08-01-2004, 04:32 PM
damn :(
Joker
08-01-2004, 04:35 PM
damn :(
Yeah, lets keep our fingers crossed
WanTing
08-01-2004, 04:53 PM
:eek:
robert_tg
08-01-2004, 05:15 PM
erh.....I hate to be bad sport here but Ray you gotta a backup for your role here ? :D

robert, who is gonna translate the article and give it to mom.
Joker
08-01-2004, 05:27 PM
Ray you gotta a backup for your role here ? :D
<--Ray's backup. PM sent :thumbsup:
Ray
08-01-2004, 05:30 PM
Joker and our other mods are always here! :)
robert_tg
08-01-2004, 05:31 PM
you just take care there boss !
Joker
08-01-2004, 05:35 PM
you just take care there boss !
Yes, lets hope that nothing happens to Ray, or anyone else in the NY area!!
HondaMan
08-01-2004, 06:29 PM
Yes, lets hope that nothing happens to Ray, or anyone else in the NY area!!

Amen!
Joker
08-01-2004, 06:44 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040801/ap_on_re_us/terror_threat_30
robert_tg
08-01-2004, 11:25 PM
Amen!

yo honda that your minister in the avatar ? http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/image.php?u=1884&dateline=1090545504
HondaMan
08-02-2004, 08:31 PM
yo honda that your minister in the avatar ? http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/image.php?u=1884&dateline=1090545504

minister? You mean mistress? If so, I wish! ;)
larchmont
08-03-2004, 02:45 PM
OK, everybody you can breathe now.

It turns out the thing was basically :bs: because.....

Reports That Led to Terror Alert Were Years Old, Officials Say


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/03/politics/03intel.html?hp


And before anybody goes saying that it's only the NY Times.....the question is just, IS IT TRUE. And it looks like there's no doubt that it is.

It's government officials who are saying it -- i.e. members of the Bush administration. So, it's the NY Times plus members of the Bush administration. I'd say that's a pretty broad consensus.

Of course, this doesn't mean there's no danger. But the whole point of this warning was that supposedly we have a VERY IMMINENT threat. Like maybe this week.

And we don't.

The best that the "officials" could say to justify this current/imminent warning was:

".....there are signs that some of this may have been updated or may be more recent.''

I don't know about any of the rest of you, but I'm not going to be as worried going into the city for the rest of the week as I was yesterday.


And yes, most definitely I smell political motive in this alert.
Joker
08-03-2004, 08:44 PM
Ridge Defends 'Three-Year-Old' U.S. Terror Alert

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040803/ts_nm/security_alert_dc_30
larchmont
08-03-2004, 09:29 PM
Ridge Defends 'Three-Year-Old' U.S. Terror Alert

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040803/ts_nm/security_alert_dc_30
Thanks, Joker.

Here's Tom Ridge's best effort to defend the "imminent" alert:

......al Qaeda had updated its surveillance of financial buildings "as recently as January this year."

That's worse than lame.

What is means is that we have an ongoing, constant danger before us. But the message of the "alert" was RIGHT NOW, EVERYBODY, WATCH YOUR BACK.

Once again, like with Iraq and so many other things, they didn't play it out in their minds. Because, where are we all supposed to go with this?

We have all these stepped-up security measures because of the alert. If nothing happens in the next couple of weeks, I guess we'll need to keep up the "red-alert" (uh sorry, orange). Because, hey, it will still remain a fact that Al Qaeda did that stuff last January. And for how long do we have to be on that emergency-type alert? Well, forever, I guess.

And maybe we should. But the message of this alert was clearly intended as a RIGHT NOW thing.

Right?
larchmont
08-04-2004, 04:47 PM
Tom Ridge defending the decision:

""The detail, the sophistication, the thoroughness of this information, if you had access to it, you'd say we did the right thing.....It's about confidence in government telling you when they get the information.''

I basically like Tom Ridge, but the fact that he could even think of putting it that way these days...... :donno:
Makes it seem like he's been on another planet for the past year.

That explanation is beyond ironic.