Greetings from Singapore

[EuroSg]

Hi everyone
This is my first post and a brief introduction. I'm from the small island of Singapore in SE Asia, and am driving a 2003 Accord Euro (not R!) for 2 yrs. My model is a 2 litre model... i think its a k20a engine, other than that I think its pretty similar to the models that u people have.

So far, I've only installed 18 inch wheels & a K&N drop in filter. Would have wanted to drop the car, body & camber kit, fuel mgmt but resrticted financially! The car has already cost me a bomb... paid close to USD 60,000 for the car! How i wish I was living elsewhere and use the excess cash on performance upgrade :drool1:

Nonetheless, I'm very satisfied with the car in terms of comfort, performance (could be better though!) & looks. Any of you people from around here so that we're able to share our resources - workshops, parts etc?

[EuroSg]

Attached are photos of my car that I have at the moment.

[Joker]

Hello, and welcome to the Club EuroSg :wavey:

[TSX 'R' US]

Hello and welcome to the site! :wavey:
Awesome color choice :nod:

and those wheels :thumbsup:

[robert_tg]

welcome eurosig :wavey:

how's about some pics ? ;)

heh heh Singapore....you can drive all round it in like 15 mins , right ? :D

[SAZABI]

welcome!

hmm... 60k for Accord euro? that's a bit expensive. 100% duty on import car like HK?

[Noel]

Certificate Of Entitlement ... Costs alot of money in Singapore, more than what the car is worth most of the time and this is just a Government redtape to discourage people from owning cars.

Welcome ... Arrow is also from Singapore and drives a CL7 Euro R. You can share resources with him much easier on local support. While in general on any questions, this board will cater much to your well required needs.

[ChinchillaX]

Welcome to the club, EuroSg.:wavey:

[WanTing]

welcome to the club!!! :wavey:

[EuroSg]

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone! The wheels I have on have seen better days under my hands! The 35 profile tyres are abit low for my kerb clipping style of driving (often while parking) :banghead:

The length of Singapore's about 40 km so it takes about 1/2 hr to get from east to west. The roads are in excellent condition though, ideal for bodykits, & lowered rides. Thanks to the astronomical taxes that we pay! I think its about 150% duty.

On top of that, I only get to own the car for 10 ten years! After that, I have the choice of scrapping it & get back about 5K, or renew the certificate of entitlement for more $$$ (Bloodsuckers!).

[EuroSg]

Anyone here who has taken your car to the track? I'm thinking of driving up north to have a go at Malaysia's Sepang circuit but not sure what sort of wear & tear could happen to the car. Other than tyres & brakes, what other "damage" to the car would i expect? Not considering crashes though.

[larchmont]

I know I'm gonna like this guy just from the avatar. :D

[Noel]

Anyone here who has taken your car to the track? what sort of wear & tear could happen to the car. Other than tyres & brakes, what other "damage" to the car would i expect?

I have a saying, one intensive day on the track equates to approximately 6 months daily driving of "traditional wear and tear". If you're serious about bring your car on the track, you need to look at just about every aspect of the car in preparation, preventative maintenance and after-use maintenance otherwise you're bound to have problems somewhere on the other.

Some of the following off the top of my head would be required without considering modifications in SEA weather/ambient conditions. These need to best replaced before attending and immediately after attending.

Tyres = I suggest using OEM rims with some R compound tyres, running street tyres will see you overheating very quickly in 3-4 laps not to mention premature tyre wear. You'd end up having no fun when you're trying to just keep the car on the track.

Brakes = High temperature compound brake pads cannot be forgotten, the speeds and braking power you exert especially after the main straight will quickly bring your OEM pads to spongy attributes because they're not designed for the heat and driving style.

Lubrications = Engine oil viscosity, transmission, brake, clutch fluids, radiator coolant. These all need to match the required high revving, high heat capabilities to allow optimal factory cooling to work and prevent engine, drivetrain damage.

If you're serious, I can recommend you some basic trackwork gear in preparation for safe and fun day out.

[vonarx]

DEar Noel

Excellent advice Noel, my hat off to you.

Am also from Singapore and have done races up north in Malaysia. Your extimated to the wear on track to road is about right. If you are going to race with road tyres make sure that the tyre pressure is about 38-40psi and brake fade will come in about the 5-7 lap if pushing about 85-90%.

Euro Sg take heed from Noel as race preparation is very important. You don,t want to take a flight home, that will be nasty. The Sepang track has very long straights and very wide corners. It is going to take a number or round to feel and experience the right lines.

Best regards
Vonarx

[Noel]

Oops, sorry ... I forgot Vonarx is from Singapore as well. My bad. :banghead:

[vonarx]

Dear Noel

Dont bash your head or else we get muddy advise then, hahahaha. It is ok as ia have not been very active in this forum, only put my 2 cents when needed. By the way, A prosperous 2005 to all of TSX club members.

[EuroSg]

Thanks for the advice! Well, gotta give it a hard think about heading for the track now. Could u send me the the basic trackwork gear.

Where do u get your car serviced vonarx? Have you tried Pasir Gudang and are there any differences in terms of wear & tear?

[Noel]

Tyres = R compound tyres, also known as semi-slicks ... Road legal because of rain channels. Plenty of good choices here, some of the common ones;

- Yokohama Advan A032R, Advan A048.
- Bridgestone Potenza RE540S, Potenza RE55S.
- Dunlop Formula R D-01J, Direzza DJ-02Z.

Brakes = Non carbon or ceramic compound, you don't want to kill your rotors.

- Anything from 300 degrees celcuis - 800/900 degrees celcuis working temperature; Endless NA-R Pads matched with Endless Truth Racing DOT4 Brake Fluid.

Lubrications = Plenty to choose from, whatever that is available.

- Engine oil; Castrol Formula R 0W40, Motul 300V Chronosport 10W40, Mobil 1 Gold 10W30.

- Transmission; Castrol Syntrans 75W-90 APL5-G, Honda OEM grade is fine.

- Clutch fluids; Endless Truth Racing DOT4, same as brake fluid.

Radiator coolant; Honda OEM grade is fine, premixed preferable.

[vonarx]

Dear EuroSG

My car is service by a few companies BM workshop at queensway or in JB. It is no rocket science when changing oil and filter. Most of the time i will instruct them what i want to be done to the car and type of oils.

As for Pasir Gudang it is very good technical track which you will learn that top speed is not everything correct lines, gear ratio and setup is improtant. The Proton Saga are running from 1min 59 to 2min 01sec round that track. It is a good fund track to train. In Sepang it is too long so have alot of time to look at trees, flowers.etc etc, on the straights

A word of Caution, the track has not been surfaced for the last 8 years, condition of certain corners are sometimes a bit sandy and the surface is VERY ABRASIVE. I advise Do Not Use soft street tyres, you will chew it up after 15 laps. Harder compound are ok since you are learning the corners and track. Be carful on turn 3 as it is a reducing corner very tricky as turn 2 is 5th gear flatout corner.

I hope the above details offer better prep for yor trip there.

If you have further details you want to know a little more you could drop me a line at my e-mail mkb_tan@yahoo.com.

Have fun and be safe at all times

Regards
Vonarx

[EuroSg]

Thanks Noel & Vonarx for the tips. Seems like i'll need to do quite a major service prior to the track session. Was thinking of just cruising the track without doing all these prep. May just play spectator for the first time round then.

Vonarx, where do u go for service intervals that require change of belts or diagnostics etc? Because the car is not brought in by the agent, I've been going around trying out workshops but found that they r only good at providing basic servicing... not even sure if they got part support for the car.

[vonarx]

Euro Sg

There are quite a number who is able to provide dignostics,etc but it depends on what you want to be done. Some are more ex than others and some keep bugging u to fix mod parts or chips. sms me if you need further help 96612249

[Noel]

There's no belts on this car that need periodic change, this car is chain driven. As for diagnostics, unless you get a check engine malfunction indicator ... It should be almost a 100% troublefree car. Honda cars are very well and truly superb build.

[Noel]

Eh? You hit the enter button too quick? :naughty:

[EuroSg]

Oh.. din know that there's no need to change belts & stuff. I think i'll just go to my normal "government backed" workshop that provides the cheapest deal. Thanks Vonarx, will sms u! Great forum! :ben:

[EuroSg]

:spike: Oops, din realise i had to type my reply before i click send. Thats what happens when i work & surf at the same time :arrow:

[larchmont]

IMO what's even more confusing (although somehow nobody has had a problem with it) is that clicking that blue "Post Reply" button on the bottom left of the page (actually the bottom left of the last post on the page) doesn't really "post a reply," it gives you a screen to WRITE a post. :donno:


BTW with an avatar like that, a post is good even without anything in it. :D

[EuroSg]

Well, Alfred always elicit a good response!

[robert_tg]

hey your Singapore guys - what's the traffic like there ? Is it just like other cities in SE Asia: Taipei, Bangkok...? I suppose it might be more orderly since the laws are pretty stringent there ?

[Noel]

Singapore gets it's fair share of traffic jams, but nothing major if you ask me. BTW, I'm wired to a Singapore radio station for 12 hours a day online. ;)

[EuroSg]

Your right Noel, the traffic's pretty ok, except for peak hour of course. I guess the laws here do help abit... Chewing gum's banned so u wont find any gum stuck to your tyres :jeffy:
But then again, after seeing one of our member's car vandalised, I feel ok about the tough laws here. Guess there're 2 sides to every coin :tardsmash
If you're interested, I can give some examples of extreme laws in Sillypore :banned:
Not flushing the toilet after use:SGD 500 fine
Chewing Gum (unless prescription - nicotine gum): 500
Spitting in public places: 500 asdfg

[IVTEC]

Dear Euro SG,

I am writing this message to let you know that you are not the only guys who are being ripped of on cars !!
I come from Malta in the and I ordered my 2.4 Accord Executive way back in october for March 05 delivery, It will come to Approx $ 49K.
Thisa is because of 75% Reg fees, 18% VAT & Approx another 6% Duty (TAXES TAXES TAXES !!)

I know that you paid more for a 2.0 but I would like you to know that I sympathice with you !!

At least you have good roads, More than half of our rads are crap. In fact more than half of our veichles you find here n Malta are 4x4 in fact my daily runner is a 97 HILUX 4x4 !!

Chers !!

[robert_tg]

Your right Noel, the traffic's pretty ok, except for peak hour of course. I guess the laws here do help abit... Chewing gum's banned so u wont find any gum stuck to your tyres :jeffy:
But then again, after seeing one of our member's car vandalised, I feel ok about the tough laws here. Guess there're 2 sides to every coin :tardsmash
If you're interested, I can give some examples of extreme laws in Sillypore :banned:
Not flushing the toilet after use:SGD 500 fine
Chewing Gum (unless prescription - nicotine gum): 500
Spitting in public places: 500 asdfg

haha good to know that...
what about if you're caught peeing in the bush ?

[IVTEC]

haha good to know that...
what about if you're caught peeing in the bush ?

AT LEAST YOU PAY A FINE IN SINGAPORE, IF THAT HAPPENS IN SOME OTHER COUNTRY NEAR US THEY WOULD CUT YOUR ... OUT !! :eek:

HA HA HA

[EuroSg]

Good to know that we're not the only ones getting ripped off. I was living in Brisbane, Oz for awhile & I felt the roads were pretty bad. Was driving a lowered Opel with full kit & i felt like i was riding a pogo stick & thrashing the kit! Will definitely get a 4WD for daily driving in similar conditions.

Surprised of the "tough" laws around. Tot that chinese were most :jeffy: Guess there'll always be someone somewhere who'll up the stakes!!!

[larchmont]

....some examples of extreme laws in Sillypore :banned:
Not flushing the toilet after use:SGD 500 fine
Chewing Gum (unless prescription - nicotine gum): 500
Spitting in public places: 500 asdfg
I would agree with the first one.
Especially at airports.

Why is it that it seems to be usually at airports where we come across this "problem"? :donno:

[larchmont]

.....I am writing this message to let you know that you are not the only guys who are being ripped of on cars !!
I come from Malta....
Hey, y'all -- this guy is in MALTA!

How many of us have been to Malta? :donno:

Larchmont, whose sister's best friend as a kid was from Malta.

[IVTEC]

Good to know that we're not the only ones getting ripped off. I was living in Brisbane, Oz for awhile & I felt the roads were pretty bad. Was driving a lowered Opel with full kit & i felt like i was riding a pogo stick & thrashing the kit! Will definitely get a 4WD for daily driving in similar conditions.

Surprised of the "tough" laws around. Tot that chinese were most :jeffy: Guess there'll always be someone somewhere who'll up the stakes!!!
Hello EuroSg

I was only joking about the bush law ''in some Country near us'' but you are right about tougher laws which might exist in some other places.

[robert_tg]

Hey, y'all -- this guy is in MALTA!
How many of us have been to Malta? :donno:
Larchmont, whose sister's best friend as a kid was from Malta.

yep when ivtec first posted i was really surprised to see where he's hailing from....untill that time I think the only time I was references to Malta was in the New Testament.

[larchmont]

yep when ivtec first posted i was really surprised to see where he's hailing from....untill that time I think the only time I was references to Malta was in the New Testament.
Huh.....what does it say?

Larchmont, who knows that HondaMan might say "Read it yourself." :D

[robert_tg]

Huh.....what does it say?

Larchmont, who knows that HondaMan might say "Read it yourself." :D

apostle Paul was shipwrecked there and was bitten by poisonous snake but no harm to him.

[larchmont]

apostle Paul was shipwrecked there and was bitten by poisonous snake but no harm to him.
Huh.....why not?

Larchmont, who is darn glad RTG got back here before HM did. :D

[robert_tg]

Huh.....why not?
Larchmont, who is darn glad RTG got back here before HM did. :D
:reading:
cause he's Jesus's man chraged with the mission of gospeling us frigging gentiles

[IVTEC]

:reading:
cause he's Jesus's man chraged with the mission of gospeling us frigging gentiles


HI ROBERT

I AM GLAD YOU KNOW THIS ABOUT SMALLY MALTA, YOU ARE VERY RIGHT WE ARE SOOOOO SMALLL THAT PEOPLE SOMETIMES DO NOT KNOW WE EXIST :surprised

[robert_tg]

great to have ya IVTEC !
hey show us some pics of your island, what I see on-line were all for tourists.

[larchmont]

Not that anybody asked me :lol:

.....but how about this for starters:


The Maltese Islands are a group of small, barren rocks, jutting out of the middle of the dark blue Mediterranean sea. In these conditions, they would have been relegated to the footnotes of history. Yet, ever since the archipelago was first colonised thousands of years ago, they have never been far from the centre of events and have often played a crucial role in the making of history. Their strategic situation in the centre of the Mediterranean Sea makes up for all the lack of resources that nature endowed the rest of the globe. Malta, the largest island, and her sister islands of Gozo, Comino, Filfla and other very small islands, are strategically placed in the narrow channel joining the eastern and the western basins of the Mediterranean. Or if you like, a bridge between Southern Europe and North Africa, or between Western Europe and the Middle East. This had landed the Maltese Islands right in the middle of the most important historic events: the wars between Rome and Carthage, the rise of Islam, the Crusades, the wars between Christians and Moslems, the rise and fall of Napoleon, the rise and fall of the British Empire, the fight for democracy against Fascism and Nazism, the Cold War, the rise of a United Europe and the challenges of the Third Millennium.


Larchmont, who did not know that. :D

[robert_tg]

IVTEC to EuroSig : "Mine is bigger than yours !"

:D

man if I live down there I wouldn't mind trading TSX/Euro-R for a pos and a small boat:

http://www.visitmalta.com/en/what_to_do/wtd_beaches/photo1.jpg

[accuwipe]

hey peps, anyone here owns a euro R? im intending to buy one but b4 i plunge into that i want to hear some feedback from current users or previous users. Im more concerned about whether the PIs are able to provide the proper servicing for such a car.

thanks!