Best Coilover Kit

[Shady_ TSX]

Whats the best brand and best performnce adjustable coilover kit ? Which one do you guys think is the best bang for the buck with adjustable and dampening ?

[2.4DOHCiVTEC]

Is JIC Magic one of the best coilovers? :lol:

[joerockt]

Tein...Seems the most popular anyway...

[Noel]

There is best for anything especially in car tuning, perhaps a better question to start with. What are you trying to establish and what are you using the car for? Good to me may not necessarily mean good to everyone, vice-versa.

[Shady_ TSX]

Well Im looking for adjustable, dampening adjustable street use coilover kit. With a good price .. !! thinking either Tein SS or Buddyclub..

[Noel]

FYI - Buddyclub is not exactly designed primarily for street use. And the Tein spring rates are quite hard as well.

[Andynolife]

H&R/Tein Basic damper for daily driving .. ~ tein basic is a bit harder .. ~ so might better for aggressive drivers
where Buddy club/tein SS for ppl who will go to track once awhile or like once a mouth
and Tein Flex + EDFC for ppl got the big buck and go for exterm performance wise
btw .. there is no pnt to get Tein Flex if u dont get EDFC .. it's basically the same thing as Tein SS .... where EDFC doesn't work on SS
so .... ~ kno how u gonna drive the car and u will find urself a best coilover ~
:)

[SAZABI]

http://www3.telus.net/pochacho/TSX/mugen2.gif

[Silv04TSX]

Ima lso int eh same shoes right now ive decided tog o coilover route and so far i narrowed it down to tein basics or tanabe so-c type 2 coilovers. Anyone have experience with the tanabe?

[Benz]

I am interested in the Tanabe too..... but People said a lot of good things about Koni~

[Bender Unit]

Anyone have experience with the tanabe?
Previously owned Eibach Prokit Spring then switched to Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC Type II Coilover. Softer than Prokit. Very Soft & Comfortable Ride Quality. Definitely Not for Track, Great For Daily use IMO. As you know it is only Height adjustable.
The price isn't tempting thou...
You can get Teins Basic with cheaper price I guess.

Fender

[LannyMCS]

Previously owned Eibach Prokit Spring then switched to Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC Type II Coilover. Softer than Prokit. Very Soft & Comfortable Ride Quality. Definitely Not for Track, Great For Daily use IMO. As you know it is only Height adjustable.
The price isn't tempting thou...
You can get Teins Basic with cheaper price I guess.

Fender

I checked these out on the manufacturer's website; look pretty nice. Very reasonable spring rates; 8K F 4K R (which in lb/in = 450 F 225 R). Retail is $850. I have not seen this listed for sale anywhere yet.

Did they come with upper mounts or did you use the stock mounts?

[Bender Unit]

it should only use the stock mounts. I really not sure.. lol Sorry Dude. I never check.

Fender

[AlterZgo]

Previously owned Eibach Prokit Spring then switched to Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC Type II Coilover. Softer than Prokit. Very Soft & Comfortable Ride Quality. Definitely Not for Track, Great For Daily use IMO.

Are you saying that the Tanabe coilovers are so soft that it didn't give you much of an improvement in handling? Did they at least feel stiffer than the stock suspension? Less body roll than stock?

[Bender Unit]

Are you saying that the Tanabe coilovers are so soft that it didn't give you much of an improvement in handling? Did they at least feel stiffer than the stock suspension? Less body roll than stock?
I'm no expert. This just my personal feeling. It only stiffer a little bit then Stock. It still doing a fine job of reduce body roll.

Fender

[Silv04TSX]

Previously owned Eibach Prokit Spring then switched to Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC Type II Coilover. Softer than Prokit. Very Soft & Comfortable Ride Quality. Definitely Not for Track, Great For Daily use IMO. As you know it is only Height adjustable.
The price isn't tempting thou...
You can get Teins Basic with cheaper price I guess.

Fender


Thats what i want to hear that sounds something i want. As far as price i found the tein and the tanabe about roughly the same price give or take a few bucks. You got pics of your car?

[Bender Unit]

Thats what i want to hear that sounds something i want. As far as price i found the tein and the tanabe about roughly the same price give or take a few bucks. You got pics of your car?
You want to check out my car...Few Pictures (http://tsxclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4618)
That's 2"+ drop.

Fender

[Benz]

That's a 2inch+ drop??

Wow......how much did the Tanabe cost you?

[Bender Unit]

That's a 2inch+ drop??
You want your car to touch the ground or something? :rofl:
Wow......how much did the Tanabe cost you?
Since there aren't much choice in last Aug. It costed me $1100CAD + TAX.

[Bender Unit]

This is My Tanabe Drop to the MAX. 3"+
Front Tires scratched the inner wall every turn everytime
:jester: If you don't believe. I got witness (NeoChaser) to prove :laugh:

http://members.shaw.ca/LCY/Resize%20of%204th%20002.jpg

btw, I forgot to mention I got 18" rims. It may look different.

Fender

[AlterZgo]

Fender,

Your car looks awesome. I'm really intrigued by the Tanabe coilovers. But, I'm concerned about the ride quality, not in terms of how soft it feels, but how it handles bumps. Is it a well damped ride? For example, when you go over a bump or a dip at highway speeds, does the car feel taut and firmly planted or does it pogo up and down a few times before settling?

[Benz]

Ya..... I am considering the Tanabe too....or Konis..... Teins is too much "track" type for me....

But damn......that 3" drop look so damn nice.....too bad can't use it as daily driving.....and.....what happen to your Mugen wing fender?? Did Neochaser stole it to make 2 M3 lips? HAHHAHAHA~

[Bender Unit]

what happen to your Mugen wing fender?? Did Neochaser stole it to make 2 M3 lips? HAHHAHAHA~That's my EuroR Kit when that picture took.

[Bender Unit]

I'm concerned about the ride quality, not in terms of how soft it feels, but how it handles bumps. Is it a well damped ride? For example, when you go over a bump or a dip at highway speeds, does the car feel taut and firmly planted or does it pogo up and down a few times before settling?
I don't want to give you a wrong impression that this coilover is softer than STOCK. It is Firm, but not as firm as Eibach Prokit. That's all I can compared because that was the only expansive I encountered with aftermarket spring or coilover.

Fender

[Silv04TSX]

those te37s look awesome my favorite wheel of all time

[Benz]

That's my EuroR Kit when that picture took.

So you have euro kit and the mugen?

[Andynolife]

So you have euro kit and the mugen?
he sold the kit and bought the mugen .. ~

[Bender Unit]

So you have euro kit and the mugen?
EuroR = Past, Mugen = Now
Don't thread Hijack

[jprovostla]

I'm considering the D2 Sports Racing coilover system...
reasonable price [about $1000]
made of aluminum
Fully adjustable (36-way dampening(51mm shocks), and ride height)
Custom spring rates (3.5, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 18, and 22 kg/mm)
Pillow ball mounts included w/ camber plates!
Telflon-coated threads
Flawless CNC finish
2 Keys for adjusting ride height
Carefully matched spring and damper rates...

MONO TUBE DESIGN
FULLY REBUILDABLE AND SERVICABLE IN THE U.S
36 - WAY ADJUSTABLE COMPRESSION AND REBOUND
CONSTRUCTED OF HIGH QUALITY BILLET 6061 ALUMINUM
INCLUDES ALUMINUM TOP MOUNTS AND PILLOW BALL CAMBER PLATES
STRUT PLATFORM AND SPRING PERCH ADJUST INDEPENDENTLY TO ALLOW FOR SPRING PRELOAD SPRING RATES ...

does anybody have experience with these coilovers???

[LannyMCS]

I'm considering the D2 Sports Racing coilover system...


..........does anybody have experience with these coilovers???

You'll be one of the first, they just released them for the TSX. They've been out for a while for the RSX, seem to have gotten mostly favorable reviews. I was bouncing back and forth between these and the Tein Flex; their biggest advantage is the aluminum construction, the downside is not a lot of long term reputation, i.e. how long will the seals last, how easy are the rebuilds etc.....

Pillow ball mounts included w/ camber plates!


That's the RSX application; the TSX will NOT come with camber plates-it's a different design.

[tuan209]

Lanny,

what did you end up getting? The Teins?

[LannyMCS]

Lanny,

what did you end up getting? The Teins?

Yeah, Tein Flex, came today. Hoping to put it in next week.

[tuan209]

cool.....my mugen adjustables should be here next week.

[jprovostla]

cool.....my mugen adjustables should be here next week.
may I ask where you got the Mugen [height?] adjustables and how much they cost??? :frosty:

[SAZABI]

MUGEN

[jprovostla]

The "OmniPower full coilover system" for the TSX won't be available for at least 6 months. Thanks for your inquiry,

David Smith, Omni-Power USA
dave@omnipowerusa.com
ph: 916-276-9160
:rolling_e

[BuddyClub-TSX]

Whats the best brand and best performnce adjustable coilover kit ? Which one do you guys think is the best bang for the buck with adjustable and dampening ?

Buddy Club N+ Damper and Racing Spec Damper

http://www.buddyclub.us/buddyclub/top_m.html

[Andynolife]

H&R is not bad ... T1R is not a bad choice too ..

[33 21.26.3.25.0]

i think buddyclub has a new damp. system. looks clean as a monkey! N+ Damper... msrp is 1080 w/ upper pillow mounts ( we all know the discounts in buddyclub land right ;] ) check it out. www.buddyclub.us

[genk-jomblo]

do some research about D2 coilover, my friend use this brand and seems to be ok.

[Noel]

Just in case, you guys aren't aware. BuddyClub has gone bankrupt.

[Fedor]

Just in case, you guys aren't aware. BuddyClub has gone bankrupt.


EDIT: They did not go bankrupt. They were bought by AAI Motorports (who was partial owner before anyways). In case you don't know who they are, they are the biggest importer of aftermarket parts in Asia, based in Taiwan. This isn't a bad thing for Buddy Club.

[goowakjai]

No wonder I got no response from their Los Angeles office/warehouse. I wanted to get their coilovers too. Now I'm not sure I want to get it.

[Fedor]

No wonder I got no response from their Los Angeles office/warehouse. I wanted to get their coilovers too. Now I'm not sure I want to get it.

(909) 923-9188.... I talked to George a few hours ago, everything is fine.
Call OptionImports.com , they have very good pricing on BC parts and can get them very quickly.

[SAZABI]

AAI Motorports??? :rolleyes:

[Fedor]

AAI Motorports??? :rolleyes:

That's correct. That is who bought Buddy Club. :rolleyes:

[33 21.26.3.25.0]

No wonder I got no response from their Los Angeles office/warehouse. I wanted to get their coilovers too. Now I'm not sure I want to get it.


they are still in business. i talked to a rep in ontario a few weeks ago and he thought i was crazy. they have a lot of new parts~!

[Cyde]

MOTON!!

Moton has a set for the TSX (2004-2006)
4-way Adjustable Damper Set [MOTON-M504062]

i have a picture of the 3-way adjustable moton suspension instaled on a TSX but i can't find it??

[TtSsXx]

hey, Cyde, long long time no see...
so, can u tell me how much of these?

[afici0nad0]

^

hahah, you sure you want to know the price?

4-way Adjustable Damper Set
$ 10,100.00 USD

[afici0nad0]

from the other site:

http://www.fotoproduction.com/188tsx2.jpg
http://www.fotoproduction.com/188tsx5.jpg
http://www.fotoproduction.com/188tsx20.jpg

[TtSsXx]

is that your car? lol

[afici0nad0]

yes

nah, it belongs to a tsx race team.

[pcdawg]

Wow...very nice looking suspension kit (moton)....though not the price LOL

Easy to adjust the dampening as well!!

[TSXDude]

Noob question here: What is the purpose of having a seperate reservoir? To prevent overheating? I also noticed that there seems to be two areas where you can adjust the damping. One on top of the shocks, and one on the reservoir. Any reason for that?

[afici0nad0]

^

you guess is as good as mine...

The 4-way Adjustable Moton Damper features 15 positions of high speed bump adjustment, 6 positions of low speed bump adjustment, 15 positions of high speed rebound adjustment and 10 positions of low speed rebound adjustment. The low speed bump adjuster is very effective in helping to control body roll while adding to turn in and is effective in controlling pitch and squat. The independent rebound adjusters give an even larger range of adjustment possibilities than the Triple Adjustable Moton Damper. The reservoir is connected to the damper by a high pressure hose and is equipped with swivel banjo’s for easy installation of the canisters in the car regardless of the position. The damper bodies are produced from the highest quality steel or aluminium.

The shafts are induction hardened and chrome plated, the material used is C45 or CrMo for strut applications. The canister pressure can be varied between 6-20 bar (100-350 PSI) to help support the car in high speed cornering with soft springs. Complete 4-Way adjustable sets are available for many applications or we can custom build struts and dampers to suit your requirements.

http://www.motonsuspension.com/index.php?item=4wayms

[Noel]

The remote separate reservoir with extended mounting elsewhere from the shock is for easy access to suspension tweaking. When doing competition work, setup changes as frequently as required. The rest of it's features are covered above.

[-phase-]

that blue valve cover is so nice..makes me want a j's racing valve cover

[mltk53]

im sorry, i dont Quite understand by what everyones saying but heres my preferences:

i want some suspesion upgrades that when i drive at some speed and go over little particles on the ground or go over pot holes i dont feel anything and i want to be able to complete turns at good speed with out the feeling of sliding or rolling.

suspensions like on the BMW is not quite what i am looking for as i have driven my cousins 325. i go over little things in the BMW and i feel every little bit of it. i hate that cuss i drive sorta fast and i want a smooth ride.

whats the best suspension upgrade for me? price isnt tooo much of a fact for me.

[pcdawg]

^

So you want total comfort with some improvement of body roll? The tanabe sustec SOC II is ur choice then.

I find the Bmw's suspension quite good. For the E46 sedan and 2 doors. These machines handles corners well and are very comfortable in terms of absorbing the lil bumps and cracks on the road.

[chuson]

It's either you go for comfort, or handling. I don't think the Tanabe suspension will suit your needs because you don't want to feel anything.

If you have ride on Air-Suspension, those are the best. It will eliminate almost EVERY single shock that's come from the road, even going through the speedbump~!!! As for handling, I think you can tune those too. How much is it? I'm guessing at least 3K+ or not avaliable for TSX.

[mltk53]

so one guy says tanabe one guy says no tanabe..whats the difference between the tanabe vs tein vs stock?

[Noel]

Brand preference, manufactured quality, spring rates, shock valve rates. etc ... The skies the limit on what is available in this aspect. From sports driving all the way to full tweak competition coilover systems.

Since you've already answered the question on use and has raised a specific reason on comfort. The next would be budget, how much would you like to spend?

[mltk53]

moneys not an issue.

[-phase-]

^then get moton?

why not have the best when you can afford the best

[mltk53]

^then get moton?

why not have the best when you can afford the best

hmm, how much do they go for? and what makes them so great?

[chuson]

hmm, how much do they go for? and what makes them so great?
Read P.4 of this thread, then go to Yahoo and do some search. It is so great that no one on this forum can afford it, so I don't think anyone can give you an personal experience/opinion. They used on offical race team vehicle.

[ians]

^

So you want total comfort with some improvement of body roll? The tanabe sustec SOC II is ur choice then.

I find the Bmw's suspension quite good. For the E46 sedan and 2 doors. These machines handles corners well and are very comfortable in terms of absorbing the lil bumps and cracks on the road.

Yup! the stock sport suspension is the only part that I never complaint on my bimmer(except the control arm need to constantly replace as a wear & tear item). It handles excellent & still provide really good ride. If you complaint the ride on the E46 than you should really hate the ride of a stock TSX. If you are not looking for slam look and want to improve handling as well as ride on the TSX, you should consider the a-spec one. It still return you all the feedback from the road but instead of return in a bouncy & bumpy way, it return in a film and comfort way.

[Noel]

It is so great that no one on this forum can afford it, so I don't think anyone can give you an personal experience/opinion.

I don't have the Moton experience on the CL7/9, however with other models. It does indicate it's worth what you pay for. They a strict track/competition coilover system made with the lightest and strongest/anti-corrosion materials along with full tweak adjustments on every aspect of the coilover. Moton also has a strong support base for technical advice and tweaking guide on best applied spring rates/applicable settings for different environments. This is what makes Moton exceptional in the coilover competition/racing industry.

When I was in the market 04 for the best applicable competition/track coilover system. Moton didn't even have our model on development plans yet. While H&R was still busy drafting R&D engineering into their product, the only people to look towards was unfortunately or ultimately - Japan. There was the choice of Tein or Zeal. Tein was almost entirely focus or based their product line-up on street use and was not applicable to my purpose. Hence Zeal was my only source literally.

Through my extensive trade support with price and budget being secondary, Zeal offered their flagship S6 coilover to me. With the choice of fully customized spring rates and type of springs (Normal, Swift) to the type of revalve up to the final material construction. The S6 was selected for the exceptional monotube technology Zeal developed, with the robust and strength offered on the full aluminum shock construction which was a plus on being lightweight as well. The choice was clear. The package performs well til date and I'm happy to say that it truly reflects what competiton coilovers are in standards across the board.

Today, Zeal has surpassed development and the S6 has been discontinued for improved technologies available on the market. The lagged tuners/manufacturers may often look to premiere Japanese development prior to releasing their own packages because often or not, the market is restricted to Japan and Japan only. Moton is great, but it's not the only choice on the market. Brand preferential aside, after sales support and customized options is the key to competition coilovers and NOT applicable for street going enthusiasts looking for the best street use product.

[-phase-]

I was bouncing back and forth between these and the Tein Flex; their biggest advantage is the aluminum construction, the downside is not a lot of long term reputation, i.e. how long will the seals last, how easy are the rebuilds etc.....


so aluminum construction is a good thing?

[anthongy817]

bump!

What tein or tanabe coilover kit would compare close to a 325i? I've driven a 325i and loved the handling but also still have the remarkable comfortness going through bumps and etc.

[KBraggs]

bump!

What tein or tanabe coilover kit would compare close to a 325i? I've driven a 325i and loved the handling but also still have the remarkable comfortness going through bumps and etc.

Tein CS

[Cypher]

Tein CS

These are almost impossible to get. I ordered almost 3 months ago and had to back out and get Tein Flex instead.

But yes Tein CS will best suit your requirements anthony.

Cheers!

[KBraggs]

These are almost impossible to get. I ordered almost 3 months ago and had to back out and get Tein Flex instead.

But yes Tein CS will best suit your requirements anthony.

Cheers!

Where'd you order them from? You will almost never find an out of stock item on eBay...and Mr. Heel Toe at www.heeltoeauto.com has them as well.

[Cypher]

Ebay dont have them. And I cannot find them on your provided site. Do you have the exact link?

Its too late for me but if they are available it would be helpful for some other members here.

Cheers!

[asterix101]

I was doing lots of research on how and with what to lower my Accord. Since Tein or Tanabe is not present here in Europe I focused my research on these coilover systems:
- Bilstein (they only have set for CL9 without HID which means I can't use them. Interesting thing was they use Eibach springs in their CO setup)
- H&R (with all the legal stuff taking care off price would be 1200EUR, however no one could answer me if this CO is rust resistant)
- KW (same price as H&R, but they are Inox, big YES)
- Koni (I can get these for 750 EUR. They would lower the car for 35mm and you can set only how hard the suspension is. They use H&R or Eibach spring. Preety cool).
- Eibach springs (350 EUR. It's cheap but still good quality)

Since I'd like to lower the car for one purpose only, that is for the looks, I decided to go with only spring system (Eibach). I have a friend who is doin this setup and after 3 years no problems what so ever with stock Honda shocks. With height adjustable systems I don't like that you need to balance the car every time you change setup. It also seems to me this systems are more or less for semi pros who take the car on a track and want to play with the setup. I tried Audi TT with Koni system and it is very smooth ride, must say I was surprised. I also tried BMW 325 with M system and shocks replaced with Eibach and it was also very sporty but not too aggresive. I did like it.

To sum up, I will put Eibach spring and when my stock shocks will die I will replace them with Koni jellow. Simple and I hope effective (looks).

[Mugen]

interresting thing going on here.

i'm looking for a good coilover system, but i need the car to settle a litle bit quicker then stock after driving over a speedbump, don't want it to look like a lowrider that's bouncing around. i'm dealing with alot of putholes, little bumps and cracks, that i don't want to be bothered by if possible, but her's another problem, i'm going to put on 19' rims and want it be lowered around 4cm, but the tires in the back will be around 245, and the offset will be 38.
so my main concern is rubbing when the tires are being pushed up by a bump or something., so i'm looking for a kit that will be pretty comfortable, but not so soft that it bounces around and slams my tires up in the fenders.

anyone, knows the awnser to this one?

[dinoc]

Someone to correct me if I'm wrong ... but having wider tires on the rear in a FWD traction car is useless as I'm aware it will increase the understeer.
Rear wider tires are good for RWD traction cars.

[Mugen]

Someone to correct me if I'm wrong ... but having wider tires on the rear in a FWD traction car is useless as I'm aware it will increase the understeer.
Rear wider tires are good for RWD traction cars.

ok maybe it's good to notice that lowering my car will be for showpurpose most of the time, that's why i'm going to have some wider tires in the back.

[ocp04]

well i just read thru 6 pages and didnt get a first hand answer for my question so here it is.... i want a lowering system that will not sacrifice(spelling) the ride quality what so ever! i drive 500+ miles a week mainly highway. does anyone have a great suggestion for me. someones gotta be able to help a new/fellow tsx owner out. thanks guys joe

[Jays98cobra]

well i just read thru 6 pages and didnt get a first hand answer for my question so here it is.... i want a lowering system that will not sacrifice(spelling) the ride quality what so ever! i drive 500+ miles a week mainly highway. does anyone have a great suggestion for me. someones gotta be able to help a new/fellow tsx owner out. thanks guys joe

get tein ss...adjust it to soft setting since they are adjustable...i also commute around 500 miles a week...they work awesome and ride better than stock
Jay

[ocp04]

get tein ss...adjust it to soft setting since they are adjustable...i also commute around 500 miles a week...they work awesome and ride better than stock
Jay


thank you very much

[chuson]

well i just read thru 6 pages and didnt get a first hand answer for my question so here it is.... i want a lowering system that will not sacrifice(spelling) the ride quality what so ever! i drive 500+ miles a week mainly highway. does anyone have a great suggestion for me. someones gotta be able to help a new/fellow tsx owner out. thanks guys joe

TEIN CS should be the best if you are looking for comfort.

[shitbox]

i recently upgraded to the tein flex from tein ss and the biggest difference between the two is that it's easier to bottom out the tein ss which makes the tein flex actually rides abit better.

[Jays98cobra]

TEIN CS should be the best if you are looking for comfort.

Yea i mean i never personally tried the Comfort Sport...but i mean if it says COMFORT in the name it must be...i can personally vouch my SS is on 2 and it rides soft and acutally BETTER than stock! So i suggest the SS or the Comfort sport. Your money my friend. spend how u like.
Jay