I'm really impressed with your times..I could only get mine to like 15.8 but I don't have the reflash and some other mods


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Well hopefully I'll be able to get you my flashed ecu soon!

 

Those are some awesome times! I have been wanting to go to the track just out of curiousity. Now i really want to go knowing that i have more mods and that i will possibly run faster.

Is there a quarter mile time thread?

 

holy ****ing shit that is impressive man!!!


I think the biggest thing you had going for you was the lighter wheels. Rotational mass savings ftw!

 

Yes those are fantastic times, but keep in mind the tires/wheels make much of the distance, if the magazines had put those on their test car instead of the stockers, they'd have gotten a much better time, though they (Car and Driver for example) test things as they would perform on the street, not the track.

Nonetheless, very impressive! Get into the 13s without boost and you're doing something right.

 

Well regardless of how it runs what it runs, is there any other time slips for comparison? Any 13 second all motor tsx's. I'd love to see what their slips look like for comparison. My mph seems awfully low for a 13 second pass.

 

Im assuming you have a m/t?

Thats pretty good... Nice low end 60ft.

Dont worry about trap speed

 

Yes, 6MT. The reason im looking so much at my trap speed is its relevance of power to weight output that would allow me to see a 13 second pass. Had i been running a 14.0@100+ i'd know theres a 13 in there easily. Im only at 96mph, 13's at this weight is quite a stretch.

very good numbers bro. last time i ran my TSX on the track it was stock with only a Spoon drop in filter and I ran a 15.6. everything on the car was stock except for the H Tech springs i had on. i'll be going back soon to test out the clutch setup with the Nitto NT01's 255/40/17

Thanks, let us know how it goes!

 

very good numbers bro. last time i ran my TSX on the track it was stock with only a Spoon drop in filter and I ran a 15.6. everything on the car was stock except for the H Tech springs i had on. i'll be going back soon to test out the clutch setup with the Nitto NT01's 255/40/17

 

Is this with k20z3 gears?

 

Yes, and shifting to 5th near the 1200 ft mark. Otherwise the car only will go 94.xx mph and wouldn't go faster than a 14.2

 

Just found out gainsville raceway is having a test and tune day the 17th...can't wait!!

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Nice #'s! I'm thinking about an SI 2nd and 3rd as well... the 2nd gear in the TSX literally is like it's falling asleep and waking up again. I hate it!

 

very nice times considering that our cars are heavy

 

Nino, all I can tell you is the tranny mods were by far the best thing to happen to this car. After you do it...you'll want to punch an Acura engineer as hard as you can in the dick for not having this gearset/LSD in there from the factory. My car stopped feeling like a sluggish boring turd after the gearset!

 

I hear you man, that is the exact experience I had with my type r. And that is why it sucks, tranny is sitting on the garage floor and I know what I am missing, will have to get my a** in the "gear"...

 

LOL, only if it was as easy as a B trans swap. If you havent done a TSX trans yet, be prepared for some fun. Subframe is a hoe, steering rack movement is tricky, and the trans case is magnesium with reverse thread bolts holding the casing together(righty loosey).

You couldnt pay me to do another one of these without a lift. Well you can, but it'd be alot of money.

 

You are not helping man, that is THE reason why I don't feel like doing this now.
Stiff neck, cold fingers and runny nose is not a way to go when you are dealing with a job that takes attention to detail and tight tolerances.

 

will z3 trannys bolt right in?

 

No, casing is different, you have to take TSX tranny apart and transfer parts ( LSD, counter shaft and main shaft) from inside z3 tranny. Put back together and check diff clearance and you should be good to go. It is easy to do, but PITA to get to and having to crack the case open if that is the only thing you are doing.
Perfect time would be if you have to do your clutch anyway, doing z3 guts at that time is a quick job and you can do main shaft bearing at the same time (just in case) as all of the other Honda trannys used to have these go bad after 120K or so...

 

Just curious. Did u notice in gas mileage drop or increase with the tranny interal swap?

 

Its hard to say since as of lately i've been a bit more aggressive on daily driving it. Its hard not to. Honda should of made the car like this from the factory and it would save it from feeling like a heavy turd.

Highway mileage is identical. K20Z3 and TSX 6th are the same. If my gas mileage changed it probably went down just a hair. Even if it was a huge margin i wouldnt care...its worth it.

 

Did you have any issues fitting the kosei's over your front calipers?

 

Props, thought no one was going to catch that. I have a second set of TSX calipers that i shaved down to fit the wheels. I also use a small spacer(im still on stock studs BTW). It works fine, i've actually been daily driving on the shaved calipers and just did a track day on saturday. So far so good. If the weather permits i might grow a set of nuts and strap on some 23X8X15 slicks this weekend.

 

*added time slips to first post.

 

Power mods are
Comptech icebox
Comptech header with random tech high flow cat
Apexi WS exhaust
Hondata Reflash
P2R TB Spacer

Drag radials on the left, 17inch wheels on the right.

Yes, 6MT. The reason im looking so much at my trap speed is its relevance of power to weight output that would allow me to see a 13 second pass. Had i been running a 14.0@100+ i'd know theres a 13 in there easily. Im only at 96mph, 13's at this weight is quite a stretch.

It's great to hear someone with a TSX drag racing it and who actually knows what's what at the drag strip.

You are bang on that the trap speed is very important and it is your horsepower (actually power/weight) indicator.
The ET and the 60foot times really indicate how your car is launching.. The trap speed indicates your HP.
This can be clearly seen that your car went from 14.58 to 14.06 without adding any power. Just a tire change.
96MPH is just fine for a 3200lb car plus 200lb driver.


What altitude is your drag strip at? This can have a huge affect on ET and MPH.

As you likely know, a 1.993 is a terrible 60foot time. Improve that and you are in the 13's. Keep practicing, play with the front tire pressure, trying to get the tires to hook up better.
Drag radials on a FWD car may not be the best way and true slicks or DOT slicks may be much better.

Other free mods would be to empty out the car, spare tire, jack, etc.
Pump up the rear tires to 50PSI or more. I run 55PSI in the front tires of my 5.0L Mustang when drag racing it.
Ice the intake manifold between runs. Remove the plastic engine cover.

Looking at your mod list.. Other possible additions to your engine might be: underdrive crank pulley, throttle body coolant bypass, insulating gasket between the intake manifold and cylinder head, short shfter.

 

Definitely good info. When i went to the track it was purely for shits and grins. Theres a few things i've could've done to touch 13's but quite honestly this was just a baseline reference for next season. Launching was a bit tough seeing as it was about 55 degrees outside and the track wasnt prepped all too great. Either way i wasnt willing to launch out too hard because the violence from the wheel hop. I'll wait until i do engine mounts and compliance bushings before going balls out. My road race-ish alignment wasnt helping my drag launches either.... 2.7 degrees of negative camber.

Before the track opens up in spring i plan on having at least a flashpro and better header along with a tune. From there a mid 13 on a slick and i'll be happy. The ultimate goal would to be able to get this thing to trap at least 105 and possibly get to the high 12's on slicks. It's all in the dial in.

Here's one of my old Civic's from about 4 years ago. It was a k20a with only 237whp @ 2120 pounds on pump gas.

 

I was able to source a used z3 trans locally with a broken case on the cheap. Otherwise you can try car-part.com and see whats available. Usually going rate for a z3 trans is about 1,000.

 

Great times, and your review of the SI gears has got me in the search for an 06+ Si gearset + OEM Lsd. I may try and use car-part.com to source a used trans, but I also found a local shop who works with K series transmissions and would be able to source me a complete gearset/LSD and be willing to buy back my TSX gear set..
The gearset swap sounds very straightforward.. pop out main/counter shafts and swap in 06 Si parts.. and voila!

 

Thats not a bad idea. TSX gearsets are popular amongst the high output turbo guys. As long as you follow oem specs for clearances its not that bad to do the install.

 

i was thinking of just swapping the entire transmission if anything instead of swapping gears, wouldn't that just be easier?

 

The TSX case is unique for its mounting points.

 

^correct. The TSX trans case is also magnesium and uses left hand thread bolts in its casings

 

I live I Cali and I have to smog. Would this by any chance fail my smog inspection or it doesn't affect it at all?? Sorry about the noon question. Thanks