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Old 10-15-2008, 08:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Come here to talk about the 3rd and last debate...it's game time in less than 1 hour.

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I probably won't even watch it, lol.

but McCain did say he would personally attack Obama tonight,
so that will be fun to watch in the highlights afterwards.
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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well, I watched like 15 mins so far and...

McCain is very upset and very nasty tonight.
I kind of like it, it's entertaining.

He surely is going to be cast as the winner of this one.
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i usually watch, but i'm watching the phillies win kick LA's ass tonight!
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well, I watched like 15 mins so far and...

McCain is very upset and very nasty tonight.
I kind of like it, it's entertaining.

He surely is going to be cast as the winner of this one.
Yep, I like it as well...exactly the approach he needed to take and he is doing well because of it.
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Unquestionable winner of the debate tonight:



Joe the Plumber!!


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...-the-weal.html
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The records show that mccaint clearly lost overall. His temper, frustration, and hatred clearly hinders him. More of the same, and independents will more than likely vote for Obama. Ciao republicans.
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McCain looked like an idiot, with his weird smiles and constant blinking... I think it's over, guys. Next president of the USA: Barack Obama!
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McCain started off strong but his finish was not as good. I think he was better but not by a lot. Again; all Obama had to was survive and he did. McCain had some good jabs, but Obama was able to blow smoke to downplay his remarks.

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Warped facts in last presidential debate
Grading the Final Presidential Debate; this links shows McCain with a slight edge, which was more or less how I saw it.

Yeah, this video clip is very telling if you actually listen to what he is saying (Joe the Plumber video)...
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More about Joe the Plumber (see link & video)
Joe The Plumber: Obama Tax Plan 'Infuriates Me'

Biden Takes Shot At Plumber's Credibility...
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I think Obama had a good answer for the plumber, lol.
I don't see how Joe the Plumber hurts him personally.

You know, I thought the numbers would be different...

But even the Fox New polls have Obama "winning" the debate
by a fair margin...

I guess maybe I should have watched it all?

nah.
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McCain started off strong but his finish was not as good. I think he was better but not by a lot. Again; all Obama had to was survive and he did. McCain had some good jabs, but Obama was able to blow smoke to downplay his remarks.

Here are some links of interest:
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Grading the Final Presidential Debate; this links shows McCain with a slight edge, which was more or less how I saw it.

Yeah, this video clip is very telling if you actually listen to what he is saying (Joe the Plumber video)...

When someone like Warren Buffet states that under the current tax plan his secretary pays more in taxes than he does, you have a serious problem. That that what people like Hondaman fail to see. Believe me The rich can afford to pay just a little bit more in taxes its not going to kill them or bankrupt them...To me this shows exactly where McCain stands which is on the side of big business....Big business does not want to help out the little guy by paying more in taxes but when big business needs a bailout...little guy get screwed....
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and he wasnt strong ....he was angry...thats not what he needed cause he only looks like a whiny old man....The old guy from down that street that shut off all the lights on halloween, or gives out pennies instead of candy....Old Grumpy McCain chasing little kids trying to get their baseball from his backyard....Broomstick in hand and everything...that what he reminded me of last night...
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Polls give Obama a national 10% lead over McCain. McCain has to concentrate on not losing red states instead of concentrating on blue states. It's over, folks. HondaMan is going to have to get used to the idea of being in the opposition.
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Polls give Obama a national 10% lead over McCain. McCain has to concentrate on not losing red states instead of concentrating on blue states. It's over, folks. HondaMan is going to have to get used to the idea of being in the opposition.
nothing is over.
in 2000 and 2004 both the dems thought they had it in
the bag until election day happened.
the republicans will go to any lengths to "win."


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