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I don't think anyone on this forum has successfully completed a TSX AT to MT swap. Anyone?
Nope I dont think anyone has; hence this thread

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Nope I dont think anyone has; hence this thread
Sorry to burst your bubble but I have

p.s. you honestly don't need a MT ECU or MT harness since your only going to lose the clutch pedal sensor (now you don't have to step on the clutch to start the car) and reverse light (can easily wire it yourself) if you have Kpro which you can turn off all the AT transmission sensor
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No bubble burst man! Thats excellent! No I dont have kpro and its going to be a while before I get it.

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So, another update. Took the evening off to go talk to a few technicians at my local dealerships and tuner shop. Both Acura and Honda just stared at me, then told me they don't support swaps and can't help me. All I asked is if they could help me compile a list of parts and if they sold the hangers needed for holding the engine up.

The local tuner shop atleast called a few people. But they couldn't help me either. Though he made claims that I would probably have to do fab work to mount the new transmission.

So a rather disappointing day.

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I'm not following... You bought an automatic TSX but wanted a manual trans TSX?

Even if the auto TSX was a killer deal, you would be much better off to trade or sell it for a MT TSX than to swap transmissions.
There is a reason why everyone is telling you this.

I don't think anyone on this forum has successfully completed a TSX AT to MT swap. Anyone?
let the man do his job, this mod would help the TSX community from a guy who has gone through trials and errors. This way we can sticky this thread so noobs like me can make a list of what to buy right away without having to second guess. Thats a price I can live with.

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Sorry to burst your bubble but I have

p.s. you honestly don't need a MT ECU or MT harness since your only going to lose the clutch pedal sensor (now you don't have to step on the clutch to start the car) and reverse light (can easily wire it yourself) if you have Kpro which you can turn off all the AT transmission sensor
hey thanks for that great info, i do have a question though, did you have to replace the AT gauge with a MT gauge? any other input you can give to us would be great and helpful since i believe you are the only other guy in the forums who has done it before..
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let the man do his job, this mod would help the TSX community from a guy who has gone through trials and errors. This way we can sticky this thread so noobs like me can make a list of what to buy right away without having to second guess. Thats a price I can live with.



hey thanks for that great info, i do have a question though, did you have to replace the AT gauge with a MT gauge? any other input you can give to us would be great and helpful since i believe you are the only other guy in the forums who has done it before..
Before an argument starts; Calgary was quoting another member, not me. So its all good.

If your asking Mugen about the gauge cluster, you dont have to replace it but, if your putting money in to do a swap, do it right and make it complete. Its kinda ricey to leave the AT gauges IMO

And yes I'm hoping MugenCL9 will contribute. We need a nice complete thread on the swap. And it would help me get it done faster.

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I'm not following... You bought an automatic TSX but wanted a manual trans TSX?

Even if the auto TSX was a killer deal, you would be much better off to trade or sell it for a MT TSX than to swap transmissions.
There is a reason why everyone is telling you this.

I don't think anyone on this forum has successfully completed a TSX AT to MT swap. Anyone?
absolutely nobody, jason and ethanks are the only ones to attempt it i believe, others have done it but there's were 2004 mine is 08 definitely a sweet deal i'm telling you if you don't know i got it for 14000 and you're right it is more simple but the problem is that i couldn't find an MT and i still can't. i'm making payments on the car but in a year i'll finish the payments, so i guess hopefully lord willing by then? i'll see if i could switch or something with somebody. but if not? i'll do the swap
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I can easily get a list of what's needed
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I can easily get a list of what's needed
Good God man! Stop teasing me and send it! PLEASE! I'll edit it into the first post.

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I warn to whoever chooses to take on this swap that there are a couple parts that are no long made. I work on cars a lot so I wasnít bother with some of the issues that I encounter but this is NOT an easy task that anyone can just do. All of the parts are pretty much bolts right up but itís the clutch master cylinder that will give you a lot of issue since there isnít much room to install and drill holes for. My motor was out and I couldnít imagine doing this swap if the motor was in.

Transmission (I would recommend the TSX 6MT) $500
I was lucky to find one with new gears and LSD from a friend at a dealership
Clutch
Flywheel

Clutch System: $215
Prefill clutch system (Complete system: clutch cylinder, slave cylinder, hard lines, ect.) 46940-SEA-A02
If you can find this then youíre extremely lucky but I had to buy the parts individually!!!

Slave cylinder 46930-S7C-E02 $44
Slave cylinder bolts 90106-S7A-E00 $1.50 (2)
Clutch fluid tank 46965-S6A-013 $33
Clutch fluid tank holder 46966-SDA-A02 $5
Clutch fluid tube 46971-SDA-A01 $4.50
Clutch fluid bolt 93403-06012-08 $.65
Clutch master cylinder 46920-S7A-A03 $91
Clutch master cylinder bolts 94050-08080 $.20 (2)
CMC lock pin 46911-S70-003 $1.60
Clutch pedal pin 46912-S84-A00 $2
Clutch hard line A 46960-SEA-A01 $14
(This is a part that is no longer available so I had to use the one from the Honda accord even though it is slightly different but it wouldnít matter because the rest of my lines werenít OEM hard lines since I used braided steel lines instead) Iíll list as if it to use OEM parts only

Clutch hard line A (accord) 46960-SDA-A04 $9
Clutch hard line B 46970-SDA-A01 $5.5
Clutch pipe bracket A 46995-SDA-A02 $10
Clutch pipe bracket B 46968-SDP-A02 $10
Clutch hose 46961-SDA-A02 $11.50
Brake hose clip 90651-538-000 $3
Bolt washer 93403-06016-08 $.60
Special bolt 90001-P7J-000 $1 (2)

Pedals:
Clutch pedal 46910-SDA-A01 $60
Brake pedal 46600-SEA-G01 $50

I used an AT harness with the AT ECU so the clutch pedal sensor wasnít required so pretty much I was required to press on the clutch pedal to start the car.

I could never imagine trying to replace AT harness with the MT harness since that means removing the WHOLE DASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The pedal and the clutch cylinder is the most difficult part in the sway!!!! The clutch pedal assembly is NOT a direct bolt on and a fabricated bracket is required to bolt on the pedal. The big issue you will encounter is installing the CM cylinder.

Like most Hondas in the past the MT and AT fire wall were the same so it made it extremely simple to do a MT swap but for the TSX it isnít!!!

Console:
Once you remove the auto shifter the MT shift boot will screw right up.
Shift boot 83415-SEC-A01ZB $23
Shift boot screws 93903-22320 $.25 (4)

Shift Lever:
Shift lever 54100-SEC-A02 $78
Shift lever bolts 93405-08035-08 $1 (4)
Shifter bushings 54117-SDA-A01 $1 (4)
Shifter floating collar 54119-SDA-A01 $1.5 (4)

Knob is up to you to choose from.

Shift Cables:
Shift cables 54310-SDA-L02 $100
Cable bolts 95701-06016-08 $.50 (4)
Cable plate 54357-SF1-003 $3
Wire washer 54118-S10-000 $2
Split pins 94201-20350 $1.50 (3)
Cable stay 24601-RAP-010 $29
Cable stay bolts 95701-08060-08 $1 (2)
Cable stay bolt 95701-08070-08 $1

Transmission mounts:
MT front lower mount 50850-SDA-A10 $35
MT front lower mount bolts 90166-SEA-E10 $2.50 (2)
MT F/R lower mount nuts 90371-S87-A00 $1 (4)
MT rear lower mount 50860-SDA-A12 $17
MT rear lower mount bolts 90165-SEA-E11 $1 (2)
MT upper mount 50870-SEA-E01 $38
MT upper stopper plate 50875-SDA-A11 $4
MT upper mount bolt 90166-SEA-E10 $2
MT upper mount bolt 90162-SDA-A00 $.55
MT upper mount bolts 95701-10045-08 $1 (2)
Upper mount bracket bolt 95701-12075-07 $1.50
Upper mount bracket bolt 95701-12060-07 $1.50
Upper mount bracket 50670-SEA-E11 $27
(This is the part that I was told from the dealer that I got the last one in the US so I would recommend to see if you can find a wreck MT TSX for it because the ACCORDís bracket is different and wouldnít work)

Half shaft:
Half shaft 44500-SDA-A00 $185
Half shaft bolts 90102-SF1-000 $4 (2)
Half shaft bolt 90165-SE0-000 $2

I got one at salvage yard from a MT accord for $50

AT and MT axles are the same

AT and MT radiator are different in a sense that the AT radiator has more lines coming out from it that goes through the AT transmission so I pretty much just plug all the on that goes to the AT so I wouldn't have to buy a new one.

MT radiator 19010-RBB-E01 $240

I didnít replace the gauges since I can just remove the bulbs from the back and it isnít worth $475 to save you from seeing the Park and Drive light.

MT gauges 78120-SEC-A11 $475

I hope this will help shine a new light on people who plan to do a MT swap.

Enjoy!
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^this didn't come out as neat as I typed it up on word just now so if you want a neater layout I can email it to whoever wants it
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Ill neaten it up for the original post.

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MT swap: Part list

Hello,
As some of you already know that I've completed a MT swap last year and I wanted to share some insight on the parts that are needed.

I warn to whoever chooses to take on this swap that there are a couple parts that are no long made. I work on cars a lot so I wasnít bother with some of the issues that I encounter but this is NOT an easy task that anyone can just do. All of the parts are pretty much bolts right up but itís the clutch master cylinder that will give you a lot of issue since there isnít much room to install and drill holes for. My motor was out and I couldnít imagine doing this swap if the motor was in.

Transmission (I would recommend the TSX 6MT) $500
I was lucky to find one with new gears and LSD from a friend at a dealership
Clutch
Flywheel

Clutch System: $215
Prefill clutch system (Complete system: clutch cylinder, slave cylinder, hard lines, ect.) 46940-SEA-A02
If you can find this then youíre extremely lucky but I had to buy the parts individually!!!

Slave cylinder 46930-S7C-E02 $44
Slave cylinder bolts 90106-S7A-E00 $1.50 (2)
Clutch fluid tank 46965-S6A-013 $33
Clutch fluid tank holder 46966-SDA-A02 $5
Clutch fluid tube 46971-SDA-A01 $4.50
Clutch fluid bolt 93403-06012-08 $.65
Clutch master cylinder 46920-S7A-A03 $91
Clutch master cylinder bolts 94050-08080 $.20 (2)
CMC lock pin 46911-S70-003 $1.60
Clutch pedal pin 46912-S84-A00 $2
Clutch hard line A 46960-SEA-A01 $14
(This is a part that is no longer available so I had to use the one from the Honda accord even though it is slightly different but it wouldnít matter because the rest of my lines werenít OEM hard lines since I used braided steel lines instead) Iíll list as if it to use OEM parts only

Clutch hard line A (accord) 46960-SDA-A04 $9
Clutch hard line B 46970-SDA-A01 $5.5
Clutch pipe bracket A 46995-SDA-A02 $10
Clutch pipe bracket B 46968-SDP-A02 $10
Clutch hose 46961-SDA-A02 $11.50
Brake hose clip 90651-538-000 $3
Bolt washer 93403-06016-08 $.60
Special bolt 90001-P7J-000 $1 (2)

Pedals:
Clutch pedal 46910-SDA-A01 $60
Brake pedal 46600-SEA-G01 $50

I used an AT harness with the AT ECU so the clutch pedal sensor wasnít required so pretty much I was required to press on the clutch pedal to start the car.

I could never imagine trying to replace AT harness with the MT harness since that means removing the WHOLE DASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The pedal and the clutch cylinder is the most difficult part in the sway!!!! The clutch pedal assembly is NOT a direct bolt on and a fabricated bracket is required to bolt on the pedal. The big issue you will encounter is installing the CM cylinder.

Like most Hondas in the past the MT and AT fire wall were the same so it made it extremely simple to do a MT swap but for the TSX it isnít!!!

Console:
Once you remove the auto shifter the MT shift boot will screw right up.
Shift boot 83415-SEC-A01ZB $23
Shift boot screws 93903-22320 $.25 (4)

Shift Lever:
Shift lever 54100-SEC-A02 $78
Shift lever bolts 93405-08035-08 $1 (4)
Shifter bushings 54117-SDA-A01 $1 (4)
Shifter floating collar 54119-SDA-A01 $1.5 (4)

Knob is up to you to choose from.

Shift Cables:
Shift cables 54310-SDA-L02 $100
Cable bolts 95701-06016-08 $.50 (4)
Cable plate 54357-SF1-003 $3
Wire washer 54118-S10-000 $2
Split pins 94201-20350 $1.50 (3)
Cable stay 24601-RAP-010 $29
Cable stay bolts 95701-08060-08 $1 (2)
Cable stay bolt 95701-08070-08 $1

Transmission mounts:
MT front lower mount 50850-SDA-A10 $35
MT front lower mount bolts 90166-SEA-E10 $2.50 (2)
MT F/R lower mount nuts 90371-S87-A00 $1 (4)
MT rear lower mount 50860-SDA-A12 $17
MT rear lower mount bolts 90165-SEA-E11 $1 (2)
MT upper mount 50870-SEA-E01 $38
MT upper stopper plate 50875-SDA-A11 $4
MT upper mount bolt 90166-SEA-E10 $2
MT upper mount bolt 90162-SDA-A00 $.55
MT upper mount bolts 95701-10045-08 $1 (2)
Upper mount bracket bolt 95701-12075-07 $1.50
Upper mount bracket bolt 95701-12060-07 $1.50
Upper mount bracket 50670-SEA-E11 $27
(This is the part that I was told from the dealer that I got the last one in the US so I would recommend to see if you can find a wreck MT TSX for it because the ACCORDís bracket is different and wouldnít work)

Half shaft:
Half shaft 44500-SDA-A00 $185
Half shaft bolts 90102-SF1-000 $4 (2)
Half shaft bolt 90165-SE0-000 $2

I got one at salvage yard from a MT accord for $50

AT and MT axles are the same

AT and MT radiator are different in a sense that the AT radiator has more lines coming out from it that goes through the AT transmission so I pretty much just plug all the on that goes to the AT so I wouldn't have to buy a new one.

MT radiator 19010-RBB-E01 $240

I didnít replace the gauges since I can just remove the bulbs from the back and it isnít worth $475 to save you from seeing the Park and Drive light.

MT gauges 78120-SEC-A11 $475

I hope this will help shine a new light on people who plan to do a MT swap.

If you have any question please feel free to ask

Enjoy!

P.S.
This didn't come out as neat as I typed it up on word just now so if you want a neater layout I can email it to whoever wants it
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