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Talking 04-08 TSX Genesis Brembo Setup (Hub Size?)

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Since there have been a couple of people fitting in Genesis Brembo Calipers w/ 14-17 Nissan Rogue 3rd Row Rotors on our 1st Gen TSX, I thought id give it a try since it doesn't require any brackets to install.

I am no expert when it comes to Hub center bores and Hub rings, but since our 04-08 TSX Center bore is 64.1mm and the 14-17 Nissan Rogue Rotor Center bore is 68.1mm (I believe), are there any Hub Rings that are specifically made for Hub to Rotor to center it? I know I needed it for my Enkei Nt03s or any aftermarket wheels but I have never heard of a Hub Ring being fitted for the Hub to Rotor.

Now for the next question. Since my Enkei Nt03s 9.5" +40 has a Hub of 72.62mm do I have to buy new Hub Rings to be fitted from the Nissan Rogues center bore or do I still use the same one provided to me when I installed the rims to my TSX? Or am I out to lunch and overthinking everything LOL!

Im pretty sure I will need some spacers to clear this BBK, probably 5-10mm, do I buy spacers with a Hub Rings Centers on it? Can I use my aftermarket Wheel Lug Nuts previously used or do I have to buy a new set of Open Ended Lug Nuts?
Im planning to do this all in my garage and would like to have everything so I can tackle it all in one go. Thanks in advance for your input!
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The thing I'd be most worried about is whether or not the rotor is lug centric. Meaning the lug sizes are the same diameter as the TSX. With the RL calipers the brembo equipped 350z rotors are not lug centric and need the ring to keep them centered on the wheel studs.

I've been looking into this swap awhile now too - hoping someone can chime in with more info.

Definitely try to get hub centric wheel spacers. I personally wouldn't run more than 5mm spacers without going with extended wheel studs. Some people will tell you 10mm is fine, I'm not one of them.

The genesis calipers are quite large though right? You might need more than 10mm. Although I haven't seen it all bolted up to verify. Lugs will depend if you go with extended wheel studs or not.

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The thing I'd be most worried about is whether or not the rotor is lug centric. Meaning the lug sizes are the same diameter as the TSX. With the RL calipers the brembo equipped 350z rotors are not lug centric and need the ring to keep them centered on the wheel studs.

I've been looking into this swap awhile now too - hoping someone can chime in with more info.

Definitely try to get hub centric wheel spacers. I personally wouldn't run more than 5mm spacers without going with extended wheel studs. Some people will tell you 10mm is fine, I'm not one of them.

The genesis calipers are quite large though right? You might need more than 10mm. Although I haven't seen it all bolted up to verify. Lugs will depend if you go with extended wheel studs or not.
Thanks for the reply TSXXXX, apparently Fastbrakes supplies a shim to center the rotor into the hub, I will have to contact them for that info.
Oh i guess i missed the first part of the question regarding the open ended lug nuts, if I extended the wheel studs in the front would i still be able to use the aftermarket lug nuts on my tsx right now or do i have to purchase a open ended lug?
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Oh that question makes more sense. Hard to say. You'll likely need open ended lugs though.

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Has there been any progress with this set up, Looking for options for my tax. thanks
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Has there been any progress with this set up, Looking for options for my tax. thanks
Yes! *UPDATE*

Everything installed perfectly, trimmed the dust shield. Bought Fast brakes ring kit to center the rotors perfectly, apparently some people have installed this bbk without it but i wanted to do it right the first time. Installed SS Stainless Brake Lines Front & Rear. The Pedal feel is close/better to stock not mushy like from what I heard with the RL BBK setup.

I took it to the mountains the week I installed it, 7 hours driving probably 4 hours of hard driving and braking around twisties, and the difference is insane! Stock Rotors i would have felt vibration from the hard braking, but this took it the whole day without issues.
Even till now there are no vibrations while braking. As for braking distance, i wouldn't know but i got to test it out when a deer jumped out in front of me and lets just say my car is still in one piece.

As for my Tire & Rim Set up fit. 18x9.5 +40 Enkei Nt03+M with 225/40/18. I had to install 1" Spacers which kind of sucks but with the Skunk2 UCA it doesnt look bad at all, semi-mexi flush look.
Not my favorite but been looking to install a widebody kit, so it might just work out since I will also be looking to raise my car a bit more and have track tire setup
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Let's see some pics of it all together. It may be worth looking into a 20mm or even 15mm spacer if that's enough to clear the calipers.

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Let's see some pics of it all together. It may be worth looking into a 20mm or even 15mm spacer if that's enough to clear the calipers.
Yeah i tried to make it as small as I can. but even with the 1" Spacer its already really tight on the spokes, i cant imagine going to 20mm.
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Yeah i tried to make it as small as I can. but even with the 1" Spacer its already really tight on the spokes, i cant imagine going to 20mm.
Oh if i recall you posted this in one of the FB TSX groups - I wanna say I replied. Weren't you asking about smaller spacers on there?

What about finding a pair of +27 NT-03's for the front? Not sure if they'd fit as is, but youd definitely get away with a smaller spacer with +27's

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Oh if i recall you posted this in one of the FB TSX groups - I wanna say I replied. Weren't you asking about smaller spacers on there?

What about finding a pair of +27 NT-03's for the front? Not sure if they'd fit as is, but youd definitely get away with a smaller spacer with +27's
Yeah i posted on one of the fb groups but didnt get a concrete answer since its a fairly new setup and was only recommended rims that were "BBK friendly".
Not an expert on rims offsets and what not but im sure changing the offsets wont affect anything. The problem with these rims and BBK setup is that the spokes of the Nt03s is what comes really close in contact.
Changing the offset would just move the rim width further in or out for the hub center. This case +27 rim would actually stick out more with the spacer since it'll push the rim out more add about 13mm to the lip.
That is how i understand it, im probably really wrong lol

If I am wrong and I hope I am. Then removing half an inch from the Overhang would make this look way more aesthetically pleasing
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Yeah i posted on one of the fb groups but didnt get a concrete answer since its a fairly new setup and was only recommended rims that were "BBK friendly".
Not an expert on rims offsets and what not but im sure changing the offsets wont affect anything. The problem with these rims and BBK setup is that the spokes of the Nt03s is what comes really close in contact.
Changing the offset would just move the rim width further in or out for the hub center. This case +27 rim would actually stick out more with the spacer since it'll push the rim out more add about 13mm to the lip.
That is how i understand it, im probably really wrong lol

If I am wrong and I hope I am. Then removing half an inch from the Overhang would make this look way more aesthetically pleasing
That's backwards. The lips on +40 and +27 are the same. Some wheels compensate for offset via the lip size but the VAST majority of wheels compensate for their offsets on the hub. So a +27 would get you 13mm more clearance.
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That's backwards. The lips on +40 and +27 are the same. Some wheels compensate for offset via the lip size but the VAST majority of wheels compensate for their offsets on the hub. So a +27 would get you 13mm more clearance.
Oh really?! So +27 has more of a flatter (concave) hub look then ,if im understanding correctly. I always thought that it looked like it had a bigger lip on it.
Where would you find that in the Rims info sheet weather its the lip size or hub that they use for offset, just for future reference.

Luckily there is a nt03 +27 around my area that i can probably test fit
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Oh really?! So +27 has more of a flatter (concave) hub look then ,if im understanding correctly. I always thought that it looked like it had a bigger lip on it.
Where would you find that in the Rims info sheet weather its the lip size or hub that they use for offset, just for future reference.

Luckily there is a nt03 +27 around my area that i can probably test fit
The spokes are exactly the same. The +27 just has an extra 13mm material on the back of the hub.
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The spokes are exactly the same. The +27 just has an extra 13mm material on the back of the hub.
Thanks for the feedback. Ill give that setup a try and see how it compares
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Glad to hear everything worked out. Time to source a set of Calipers.
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