Flashpro DBW Adjustment... - Acura TSX Forum
 2Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-25-2016, 08:26 AM Thread Starter
Premium Club Member
 photo 15_zps17d8f38c.png
 
SimpleK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 336
 
Garage
iTrader: (0)
Flashpro DBW Adjustment...

I just recently purchased a Flashpro. I've installed a calibration and flashed the ECU with the downloaded calibration. It's amazing how my car feels like a whole new beast. I have a question regarding the DBW (drive by wire) adjusting. Is this something I can adjust without causing damage or should this be left to a tuner? I've seen some throttle plate tables around different forums. It would appear that I could just copy that table and DBW issues are gone. I'm still learning things about the Flashpro.

2008 PWP 6spd/navi/black interior
The Unicorn
"Success is 99% failure" -Soichiro Honda
Attack The Dragon Co-Founder
SimpleK is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-25-2016, 09:17 AM
VP of Infinite Infinity
 
Aragrev7's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Kelowna
Posts: 1,791
   
iTrader: (10)
Interested as well. Which Calibration did you use? I wanted something similar to the Reflash until I get tuned, but I called Hondata and they said they didn't include one with the package for us.

|Adler|Apexi|Aspec|Axis|Comptech|Corsport|Cusco|De vSport|EGR|Exedy|FastLinePerformance|J'sRacing|Han kook|Hondata|HIC|HybridRacing|Ichiba|Ingalls|Injen |Infinity|LOWPROaero|Neuspeed|NTK|Optima|Progress| Rockford|Skunk2|StrutKing|Tein|
>aragrev7's Build Thread<
FS: 06 MT Hondata Reflash!
Aragrev7 is offline  
post #3 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-25-2016, 09:39 AM Thread Starter
Premium Club Member
 photo 15_zps17d8f38c.png
 
SimpleK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 336
 
Garage
iTrader: (0)
I found one in the vault store. It was built around the CT icebox which I have installed. For the most part, the map is for a lightly modified car.

You could also look here:http://flashprotuning.com/calibrations

There are a couple calibrations that were done by VitViper.

2008 PWP 6spd/navi/black interior
The Unicorn
"Success is 99% failure" -Soichiro Honda
Attack The Dragon Co-Founder
SimpleK is offline  
 
post #4 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-25-2016, 12:41 PM
After 5-10 Guinness
 
ACC-Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hessen, Germany/Ontario, Canada/Louisiana, USA/Worldwide, Earth
Posts: 592
   
Garage
iTrader: (0)
It's a good/great idea with Vit. He knows what he's doing. I wish I had seen his 'offer' before.. flash-pro and his ultimate e-tune (until you are totally satisfied) for $750..!!?? good god!! Dyno tunes are like $100/hr incl. Tuner/Dyno Owner... PLUS time on the 'open' street, doing pre-setups.. a/f adjustments @ wot...
So, his $100 flatrate, like said, until you are satisfied, (NO MATTER HOW MANY REMAPS/CALIBRATIONS!!!) is truely unbeatable...
Only 'downfall' is, you do NOT get an actual 'print-out' of what your vehicle is putting down.. you get a virtual graph, which can be quite close to reality...
ACC-Man

Try it!!! You only die once...

The best engine in the world is the Vagina;
It can be started with one finger. It's self lubricating.
It takes any size piston, and changes it's own oil every 4 weeks.
It is only a pity that the management system is so f....g temperamental.
ACC-Man is offline  
post #5 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-25-2016, 03:23 PM Thread Starter
Premium Club Member
 photo 15_zps17d8f38c.png
 
SimpleK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 336
 
Garage
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ACC-Man View Post
It's a good/great idea with Vit. He knows what he's doing. I wish I had seen his 'offer' before.. flash-pro and his ultimate e-tune (until you are totally satisfied) for $750..!!?? good god!! Dyno tunes are like $100/hr incl. Tuner/Dyno Owner... PLUS time on the 'open' street, doing pre-setups.. a/f adjustments @ wot...
So, his $100 flatrate, like said, until you are satisfied, (NO MATTER HOW MANY REMAPS/CALIBRATIONS!!!) is truely unbeatable...
Only 'downfall' is, you do NOT get an actual 'print-out' of what your vehicle is putting down.. you get a virtual graph, which can be quite close to reality...
ACC-Man
I'm not having my car etuned by Vit. I'm going with Suja One in Nashville as they are much closer to me if I ever choose to have my car put on a dyno. I've got some friends that have used Vit for etuning but I chose to go another route. I was just referencing some base maps that are available on some forums. The calibration I'm running on currently was found in the Flashpro vault store.

2008 PWP 6spd/navi/black interior
The Unicorn
"Success is 99% failure" -Soichiro Honda
Attack The Dragon Co-Founder
SimpleK is offline  
post #6 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-25-2016, 03:38 PM
After 5-10 Guinness
 
ACC-Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hessen, Germany/Ontario, Canada/Louisiana, USA/Worldwide, Earth
Posts: 592
   
Garage
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SimpleK View Post
I'm not having my car etuned by Vit. I'm going with Suja One in Nashville as they are much closer to me if I ever choose to have my car put on a dyno. I've got some friends that have used Vit for etuning but I chose to go another route. I was just referencing some base maps that are available on some forums. The calibration I'm running on currently was found in the Flashpro vault store.
K, just a careful question... what all are you running on your car??
and basemaps are enough?? i mean, each tune is different...
just my $0.02

ACC-Man

Try it!!! You only die once...

The best engine in the world is the Vagina;
It can be started with one finger. It's self lubricating.
It takes any size piston, and changes it's own oil every 4 weeks.
It is only a pity that the management system is so f....g temperamental.
ACC-Man is offline  
post #7 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-25-2016, 03:45 PM Thread Starter
Premium Club Member
 photo 15_zps17d8f38c.png
 
SimpleK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 336
 
Garage
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ACC-Man View Post
K, just a careful question... what all are you running on your car??
and basemaps are enough?? i mean, each tune is different...
just my $0.02

ACC-Man
My $0.02 is for minor mods like intake, header and exhaust, yes a base map should suffice. But if you want to get more out of the car, an etune would be able to get even more out than from a base map. If it's etuned properly, the tuner will want you to provide some datalogging from different pulls.

I currently have very little done to my engine. So a base map is perfect at the moment.

But to stay on original topic, I wanting to know if I can practically eliminate the DBW lag or should I leave that up to the etuner.

2008 PWP 6spd/navi/black interior
The Unicorn
"Success is 99% failure" -Soichiro Honda
Attack The Dragon Co-Founder
SimpleK is offline  
post #8 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-26-2016, 10:18 AM
After 5-10 Guinness
 
ACC-Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hessen, Germany/Ontario, Canada/Louisiana, USA/Worldwide, Earth
Posts: 592
   
Garage
iTrader: (0)
Do you know your way around in FP Manager, could you change the t-plate level/opening by yourself??
How long until you get tune/e-tune done??
If it is only a few days/week until you get the tune, then i would wait, especially because it "could' change your A/F levels.. letting in more air @ same amount of fuel... could thin-out/lean your mixture... danger!! (Like said it is all "Could", by no means "must")

ACC-Man

Try it!!! You only die once...

The best engine in the world is the Vagina;
It can be started with one finger. It's self lubricating.
It takes any size piston, and changes it's own oil every 4 weeks.
It is only a pity that the management system is so f....g temperamental.
ACC-Man is offline  
post #9 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-26-2016, 11:19 AM Thread Starter
Premium Club Member
 photo 15_zps17d8f38c.png
 
SimpleK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 336
 
Garage
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ACC-Man View Post
Do you know your way around in FP Manager, could you change the t-plate level/opening by yourself??
How long until you get tune/e-tune done??
If it is only a few days/week until you get the tune, then i would wait, especially because it "could' change your A/F levels.. letting in more air @ same amount of fuel... could thin-out/lean your mixture... danger!! (Like said it is all "Could", by no means "must")

ACC-Man
I'm sure I could change the tables...lol. I may just hold off until the etune happens. I just didn't know the ramifications of make those changes. I'm currently looking for a header so I can get the etune done sooner than later.

2008 PWP 6spd/navi/black interior
The Unicorn
"Success is 99% failure" -Soichiro Honda
Attack The Dragon Co-Founder
SimpleK is offline  
post #10 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-26-2016, 01:11 PM
After 5-10 Guinness
 
ACC-Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hessen, Germany/Ontario, Canada/Louisiana, USA/Worldwide, Earth
Posts: 592
   
Garage
iTrader: (0)
Yes yes, and i totally understand!! I too, have had Hondata for what, 3 yrs now, but am first now, getting to understand, taking time to look at the infos it is giving me... I will by no means 'change' anything... other than that i added the new ingredients that i will be (having) tuning soon/getting (brought) up to par... datalogging ok, watching the graph now makes some sort of sense, having the 'sensors' table/screen open for further input... like playing piano... a fine art for fine fingered fellows/fellowettes...

ACC-Man

Try it!!! You only die once...

The best engine in the world is the Vagina;
It can be started with one finger. It's self lubricating.
It takes any size piston, and changes it's own oil every 4 weeks.
It is only a pity that the management system is so f....g temperamental.
ACC-Man is offline  
post #11 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-27-2016, 05:52 PM
After 5-10 Guinness
 
ACC-Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hessen, Germany/Ontario, Canada/Louisiana, USA/Worldwide, Earth
Posts: 592
   
Garage
iTrader: (0)
Was just shopping, came across this...:

KIWI

ACC-Man

Try it!!! You only die once...

The best engine in the world is the Vagina;
It can be started with one finger. It's self lubricating.
It takes any size piston, and changes it's own oil every 4 weeks.
It is only a pity that the management system is so f....g temperamental.
ACC-Man is offline  
post #12 of 36 (permalink) Old 03-09-2016, 04:06 PM
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 52
 
Garage
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ACC-Man View Post
Was just shopping, came across this...:

KIWI

ACC-Man
If you have flashpro you can just install the Hondata app on your iphone/android and connect to it via bluetooth to get a live output of your sensors and a gauge style display. Just ask your tuner to activate the bluetooth feature and set a bluetooth PIN for your flashpro.

I permanantly installed my flashpro under the dash and can sync my phone to it whenever I feel like it to see what is going on.

If you aren't comfortable changing values leave this to a tuner. I am not responsible if you mess anything up. Read over everything from Hondata and learn what all the different features do. A lot of things work together in the computer that a lot of people don't realize, but as far as adjusting the throttle opening. You can easily go in and make the throttle plate open at a 1:1 ratio just like if you had a throttle cable. If you look at the charts for a stock TSX 5% throttle at 2500 rpms gives you like 1.8% throttle opening. (Not the exact value I'm throwing out a guesstimate I don't have the map in front of me)

You just make each column match the % value at the top the whole way down the chart. ie: 5% should be 5 straight down, 15% should be 15% straight down. Watch the AFR after doing this the tune should still be spot on but you may have to adjust your throttle tip in values since the motor will respond much faster. You'll notice that unless you are at 100% throttle the stock TSX map really doesn't ever match up to how far you press the pedal.
EconoBox is offline  
post #13 of 36 (permalink) Old 03-24-2016, 01:12 PM
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 198
 
iTrader: (2)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ACC-Man View Post
Was just shopping, came across this...:

KIWI

ACC-Man


I just bought a cheap OBD2 Bluetooth reader/adapter and have the "Torque" App for Android.

Same thing it looks like.

I payed... $15? at the most. $99 seems ridiculous.
SeaJay is offline  
post #14 of 36 (permalink) Old 05-24-2016, 09:00 AM
Registered Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Flushing, NY
Posts: 99
 
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by EconoBox View Post
...as far as adjusting the throttle opening. You can easily go in and make the throttle plate open at a 1:1 ratio just like if you had a throttle cable. If you look at the charts for a stock TSX 5% throttle at 2500 rpms gives you like 1.8% throttle opening. (Not the exact value I'm throwing out a guesstimate I don't have the map in front of me)
Hi, I'm a new (of 2 days) owner of a 2007 Acura TSX which came to me already tuned with a Hondata Flashpro. I'm finding the car jerky to control at low speeds without slipping the clutch, which I'd rather not do... In slow traffic and a stick shift car, I usually sit in second or even first gear and just tap the gas pedal from time to time while coasting otherwise - on this car I get jolts and a back and forth rocking doing this.

I've done some reading on this forum and elsewhere and it's apparently because of the DBW programming, and that maybe this Flashpro can help adjust that?

On the other hand, it seems to me the throttle is OVER sensitive at low RPMs, but you say OEM programming that 5% throttle = 1.8% throttle opening - wouldn't that mean throttle is dampened? The opposite of what I'm seeing.

Of course it could be that the existing tuning is making it more sensitive, but I'm trying to figure out what DBW / Flashpro means for me in this context.
Robardin is offline  
post #15 of 36 (permalink) Old 06-05-2016, 08:39 AM
After 5-10 Guinness
 
ACC-Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hessen, Germany/Ontario, Canada/Louisiana, USA/Worldwide, Earth
Posts: 592
   
Garage
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by EconoBox View Post
If you have flashpro you can just install the Hondata app on your iphone/android and connect to it via bluetooth to get a live output of your sensors and a gauge style display. Just ask your tuner to activate the bluetooth feature and set a bluetooth PIN for your flashpro.

I permanantly installed my flashpro under the dash and can sync my phone to it whenever I feel like it to see what is going on.

If you aren't comfortable changing values leave this to a tuner. I am not responsible if you mess anything up. Read over everything from Hondata and learn what all the different features do. A lot of things work together in the computer that a lot of people don't realize, but as far as adjusting the throttle opening. You can easily go in and make the throttle plate open at a 1:1 ratio just like if you had a throttle cable. If you look at the charts for a stock TSX 5% throttle at 2500 rpms gives you like 1.8% throttle opening. (Not the exact value I'm throwing out a guesstimate I don't have the map in front of me)

You just make each column match the % value at the top the whole way down the chart. ie: 5% should be 5 straight down, 15% should be 15% straight down. Watch the AFR after doing this the tune should still be spot on but you may have to adjust your throttle tip in values since the motor will respond much faster. You'll notice that unless you are at 100% throttle the stock TSX map really doesn't ever match up to how far you press the pedal.

I do not have the 'new' flashpro with bluetooth functions. still have a way old version, 4-5 yrs old. (Sn 60046ish) I do not see putting out another $700 for a 'newer' FP. The kiwi/compareable apparatuses would be the lest expensive option for me. I am sort of hung on the PLX devices. Find they are well built (in America) and the customer service is absolutely amazing!! To each his/her own.

ACC-Man

Also, there are the 'DBW Tuning Boxes", by 3 or 4 companies. i had the Sprint Booster, before i got FP. It too worked quite well, making the "lag' less noticeable. But $300 for what it does/did is way too much for what it be..

Try it!!! You only die once...

The best engine in the world is the Vagina;
It can be started with one finger. It's self lubricating.
It takes any size piston, and changes it's own oil every 4 weeks.
It is only a pity that the management system is so f....g temperamental.
ACC-Man is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Acura TSX Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome