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04-08 TSX Genesis Brembo Setup (Hub Size?)

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Sup TSXClub,

Since there have been a couple of people fitting in Genesis Brembo Calipers w/ 14-17 Nissan Rogue 3rd Row Rotors on our 1st Gen TSX, I thought id give it a try since it doesn't require any brackets to install.

I am no expert when it comes to Hub center bores and Hub rings, but since our 04-08 TSX Center bore is 64.1mm and the 14-17 Nissan Rogue Rotor Center bore is 68.1mm (I believe), are there any Hub Rings that are specifically made for Hub to Rotor to center it? I know I needed it for my Enkei Nt03s or any aftermarket wheels but I have never heard of a Hub Ring being fitted for the Hub to Rotor.

Now for the next question. Since my Enkei Nt03s 9.5" +40 has a Hub of 72.62mm do I have to buy new Hub Rings to be fitted from the Nissan Rogues center bore or do I still use the same one provided to me when I installed the rims to my TSX? Or am I out to lunch and overthinking everything LOL!

Im pretty sure I will need some spacers to clear this BBK, probably 5-10mm, do I buy spacers with a Hub Rings Centers on it? Can I use my aftermarket Wheel Lug Nuts previously used or do I have to buy a new set of Open Ended Lug Nuts?
Im planning to do this all in my garage and would like to have everything so I can tackle it all in one go. Thanks in advance for your input!

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I used the Fastbrakes rear bracket and if I recall a 12.3" MDX rotor.
What Bbk caliper did you use for the rear?
Stock caliper.
Everything installed perfectly, trimmed the dust shield. Bought Fast brakes ring kit to center the rotors perfectly, apparently some people have installed this bbk without it but i wanted to do it right the first time. Installed SS Stainless Brake Lines Front & Rear. The Pedal feel is close/better to stock not mushy like from what I heard with the RL BBK setup.
Man can you give more details what year chasis calipers, what rotors, center rings etc...
Man can you give more details what year chasis calipers, what rotors, center rings etc...
Its installed on a 2006 TSX but should work for any CL9/CL7, everything is listed in the first page of this thread
Its installed on a 2006 TSX but should work for any CL9/CL7, everything is listed in the first page of this thread
I understand that it will fit. But might you can share the direct part numbers of the rotor and few photos of how it was installed, and how you trimmed your dust shield. Remove the wheel and make several photos ;) this thread needs more photos man ;)))
I understand that it will fit. But might you can share the direct part numbers of the rotor and few photos of how it was installed, and how you trimmed your dust shield. Remove the wheel and make several photos ;) this thread needs more photos man ;)))
Sorry man this thread wasnt meant to be a DIY, didnt take much photos at all since it was direct bolt-on, if you can take out your caliper and rotor you should be able to bolt the new setup the same way. There are threads here and Facebook TSX Groups that outline exactly what is needed
I understand that it will fit. But might you can share the direct part numbers of the rotor and few photos of how it was installed, and how you trimmed your dust shield. Remove the wheel and make several photos ;) this thread needs more photos man ;)))
This is all very basic stuff than can be found very quickly if you just search. Don't ask us to spoonfeed you. Take pride in your research.
Thanks for the reply TSXXXX, apparently Fastbrakes supplies a shim to center the rotor into the hub, I will have to contact them for that info.
Oh i guess i missed the first part of the question regarding the open ended lug nuts, if I extended the wheel studs in the front would i still be able to use the aftermarket lug nuts on my tsx right now or do i have to purchase a open ended lug?
What size is the shim ring? I can’t find anything on fastbrakes website
What size is the shim ring? I can’t find anything on fastbrakes website
Not sure on the size , you have to message them on FB or the website.
Sup TSXClub,

Since there have been a couple of people fitting in Genesis Brembo Calipers w/ 14-17 Nissan Rogue 3rd Row Rotors on our 1st Gen TSX, I thought id give it a try since it doesn't require any brackets to install.

I am no expert when it comes to Hub center bores and Hub rings, but since our 04-08 TSX Center bore is 64.1mm and the 14-17 Nissan Rogue Rotor Center bore is 68.1mm (I believe), are there any Hub Rings that are specifically made for Hub to Rotor to center it? I know I needed it for my Enkei Nt03s or any aftermarket wheels but I have never heard of a Hub Ring being fitted for the Hub to Rotor.

Now for the next question. Since my Enkei Nt03s 9.5" +40 has a Hub of 72.62mm do I have to buy new Hub Rings to be fitted from the Nissan Rogues center bore or do I still use the same one provided to me when I installed the rims to my TSX? Or am I out to lunch and overthinking everything LOL!

Im pretty sure I will need some spacers to clear this BBK, probably 5-10mm, do I buy spacers with a Hub Rings Centers on it? Can I use my aftermarket Wheel Lug Nuts previously used or do I have to buy a new set of Open Ended Lug Nuts?
Im planning to do this all in my garage and would like to have everything so I can tackle it all in one go. Thanks in advance for your input!
Thanks
So what brake pads are being used? Brembo brake pads or the nissan rouge?
Sup TSXClub,

Since there have been a couple of people fitting in Genesis Brembo Calipers w/ 14-17 Nissan Rogue 3rd Row Rotors on our 1st Gen TSX, I thought id give it a try since it doesn't require any brackets to install.

I am no expert when it comes to Hub center bores and Hub rings, but since our 04-08 TSX Center bore is 64.1mm and the 14-17 Nissan Rogue Rotor Center bore is 68.1mm (I believe), are there any Hub Rings that are specifically made for Hub to Rotor to center it? I know I needed it for my Enkei Nt03s or any aftermarket wheels but I have never heard of a Hub Ring being fitted for the Hub to Rotor.

Now for the next question. Since my Enkei Nt03s 9.5" +40 has a Hub of 72.62mm do I have to buy new Hub Rings to be fitted from the Nissan Rogues center bore or do I still use the same one provided to me when I installed the rims to my TSX? Or am I out to lunch and overthinking everything LOL!

Im pretty sure I will need some spacers to clear this BBK, probably 5-10mm, do I buy spacers with a Hub Rings Centers on it? Can I use my aftermarket Wheel Lug Nuts previously used or do I have to buy a new set of Open Ended Lug Nuts?
Im planning to do this all in my garage and would like to have everything so I can tackle it all in one go. Thanks in advance for your input!
So what brake pads are being used? Brembo brake pads or the nissan rouge?
So what brake pads are being used? Brembo brake pads or the nissan rouge?
Brake pads are from Genesis Brembos. Only item from the nissan rouge are the rotors
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I’m a little new to this TSX building, picked up an 04 last fall and have gotten the genesis calipers and the fast brakes rotor shim kit.

What I’m wondering now is if these wheels will clear without spacers. (I know when I test fit my stock wheels over brake components installed, it was difficult to get an accurate measurement, but it appeared as if I needed at least 20-25 mm more offset in the spoke of the wheel, not necessarily the hub/wheel offset. To me that’s what makes finding moderate offset/sized wheels that are practical for daily commuting difficult with this setup. There needs to be a page for nothing but cl9 rim/tire fitment options with the use of the genesis/rogue brake upgrade.

I’m anxious to get the brake components installed completely and in use because it was so disheartening to have to remove the brakes after test fitting 😿.

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Unrelated to the use of these specific components we’re discussing, but still slightly relevant to the topic at hand...

This is a pic of a friend of mines g37 with 19” Meisters. The curvature of the spokes are designed specifically for this car’s brake hardware fitment I feel like. Wish I had a better pic, because in person and up close, it’s literally just enough clearance for a credit card/business card, which is exactly what the guy at fast brakes told me over the phone. Brian I think is his name.
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Still no input from anyone...? Come on!

I’m either going to order one of these wheels or look for something suitable (affordable for me) that has a +20-25 offset.

The Avid wheel I posted above is just not enough offset I feel like. Trying to avoid ordering one, test fitting the brake components again, then re-installing my stock hardware since this is my daily, just to figure out this wheel clearance thing.

What I do realize is it’s all about the geometry and design of the spokes of the rim. You could have negative offset wheels and if the spokes are convex it may not clear the caliper. The concavity of the rims spokes are key to proper clearance. The spokes on my stock wheels are basically straight (not concave or convex), and trying to get an accurate measurement of how much rim clearance it needs to fit the Genesis caliper is difficult unless you jig the wheel to the vehicle somehow and ensure that both x and y axes of the rotor match those of the wheel for measurement, but by my eyeballing, a 1” spacer would allow me to use my wheels.

Not the route I’m planning to take. The inside of the barrel of the stock rim is so close to the caliper that sticky weights on the inside of the rim would get knocked off most likely.
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Im having this problem as well. I looked into the Fast Wheels Dimes which are pretty similar to the Avids that you posted, but haven't had a clear response. All i know since Mitsubishi Evo 8/9 BBS and Evo X GSR wheels fit the Genesis Brembos without a spacer on our TSX, is to look for wheels that fit those cars. I am running Nt03s 9.5 +40 and I have to run a 1" spacer in the front which is really killing my tires really fast.
Im having this problem as well. I looked into the Fast Wheels Dimes which are pretty similar to the Avids that you posted, but haven't had a clear response. All i know since Mitsubishi Evo 8/9 BBS and Evo X GSR wheels fit the Genesis Brembos without a spacer on our TSX, is to look for wheels that fit those cars. I am running Nt03s 9.5 +40 and I have to run a 1" spacer in the front which is really killing my tires really fast.
So you’re saying that stock Evo wheels work with this brake setup on our cars?

Also, are the wheels you mentioned above the ones in the pic from previous post? Either way, I have a question for you. I’m curious to know how much horizontal clearance you have between the spokes of your wheel and the caliper. Maybe with that info I can get an idea of wheel spacing and get a perfect fitting wheel the first time.

I’m going to make a complete build thread with details like these included when I finally finish/get close to finished with this brake upgrade.
So you’re saying that stock Evo wheels work with this brake setup on our cars?

Also, are the wheels you mentioned above the ones in the pic from previous post? Either way, I have a question for you. I’m curious to know how much horizontal clearance you have between the spokes of your wheel and the caliper. Maybe with that info I can get an idea of wheel spacing and get a perfect fitting wheel the first time.

I’m going to make a complete build thread with details like these included when I finally finish/get close to finished with this brake upgrade.
Yeah Evo wheels work a couple guys on the TSXClub group on Facebook have run them, and they look pretty good on our cars. Im not too sure of the distance i can probably check it out once i do some maintenance on it
I have a questions about the genesis calipers are they front or rear
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