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According to a report by Wards, Hyundai Motor America will not offer a V6 engine in its next-generation Sonata mid-sized sedan lineup. The 2011 Hyundai Sonata will go on sale in the United States early next year.

Instead, the new Sonata will be offered with Hyundai’s new 2.4L Theta II GDI 4-cylinder gasoline engine that produces 175-hp and returns an estimated fuel-economy of 22/32 mpg (city/highway). All engines will be mated to a 6-speed automatic.

The new 2011 Hyundai Sonata for the U.S. market is expected to debut at the 2010 Detroit Auto Show in January.

Wards said that Hyundai is also nixing the V6 engine from its Tucson Crossover model.
 

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Not bad looking but based on the given information it wont be able to compete with others in its class. I imagine that with a 6spd auto it aught to be pretty quick but, with a 6th gear overdrive the mpg should be much higher. The specs on this car are right there with early 2000's model sedans. Great looking car Hyundai, but I have to say FAIL.
 

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I think it's going to be way too underpowered.. it's a pretty big sedan that competes with cars like the accord, camry, malibu etc. all of which have a v6 option..
 

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Direct Inject 4

Just a few days ago we saw the first images of the all-new Hyundai Sonata as it was introduced in South Korea. The Korean press release only mentioned two powertrain options, a 2.0-liter four cylinder and a 2.4-liter direct-injected four. No reference was made to a V6 such as the one offered in the current-generation Sonata. Ward's reports that they have been told even the North American-market Sonata will go four-cylinder only.

The current Sonata V6 only accounts for just 15 percent of total sales, and with the DI engine becoming standard in the new model, the larger engine likely be even less popular. We checked with Hyundai spokesman Dan Bedore, who responded "We have officially declined to comment further on that report." Bedore did tell us that further announcements would be coming at either the Los Angeles or Detroit Auto Show when the US model is revealed. The one thing we do know for sure is that a Sonata hybrid is coming later in 2010.

 

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I think it's going to be way too underpowered.. it's a pretty big sedan that competes with cars like the accord, camry, malibu etc. all of which have a v6 option..
This is true, but with the Accord at least, I don't see very many V6's being sold either (the official numbers might say something else).

I see lots of 8th Gen Accords, not a lot of V6's.

Then again the I4's that they use are 190hp, more than this Sonata with 175.
 

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People who are looking to buy a sonata are not looking for a "Sporty" sedan. I think I would be underpowered but honestly to some housewife that has to pick the kids up probably not.
 

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hyundai has come a long way since their Pony days, and think of these cars as simply as what they are...transportation from a to b. So I think with this model they are going after the consumers who cant afford a V6 sedan and those who want a full size but for a good price who dont want a domestic vehicle. 2 cents
 

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Not sure where Wards got those horsepower figures, but from everything I've heard the new 2.4 4cyl will have between 195hp and 201hp. The current engine puts out 175hp. And Edmund's is reporting that the car will have the new DI 4cyl plus a turbo charged engine with ~245hp.
 

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New Engine

When the swoopy new 2011 Sonata goes into production at Hyundai's plant in Alabama early next year, it won't offer a V6 engine anymore, but it will get the company's first ever direct-injected engine. This week in South Korea, Hyundai took the wraps off its 2.4-liter Theta II GDI four-cylinder. Like similar engines from other automakers, Hyundai's engineers have taken advantage of the charge cooling effect of direct injection by boosting the compression ratio to 11.3:1. As a result the engine produces 198 hp and 184 pound-feet of torque at 4,250 rpm in Korean spec.

The direct injection system is setup to use a two-pulse strategy similar to modern common rail diesels. The initial smaller pulse is ignited by the spark plug and then followed by a second larger pulse as the piston begins its downward stroke. GM uses a similar strategy for its 2.4-liter DI Ecotec because it helps warm the engine faster, heating the catalytic converter and reducing emissions. The GDI Theta II produces from 7-12 percent more torque across its rev range than the port-injected version of the same engine. Efficiency should also improve by about 10 percent although the final certification figures aren't complete yet. The Theta II also gets continuously variable valve timing on both camshafts to round out its high tech upgrades. In addition to the regular Sonata sedan, this engine will likely also be used for the new Sonata hybrid when it debuts late in 2010.
 

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I think Hyundai should offer their CRD-i engines in the US. I see those engines in Santa Fe and Tucsons in Taiwan.
 

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With the first units of its 2011 Sonata sedan having just begun hitting dealers, Hyundai is in the unfortunate position of having to issue a stop-sale on its most hotly anticipated new model in some time. According to Hyundai, an estimated 5,000 Sonatas may have a defective front door latch that could require replacement:

The [Sonata's] front doors incorporate a convenience feature that allows a locked door to be unlocked and opened by pulling the inside door release handle without first unlocking the door with the inside door lock switch. If a front inside door lock switch is held in the locked position while the inside door handle is pulled to open the door, the door latch may malfunction. If this occurs, the inside door handle will not return to its normal, stowed position and the door latch will remain in the unlatched position when attempting to close the door.

Because the two rear doors do not incorporate the automatic unlock pull-handle-to-open convenience feature, they are not affected by this issue, but both driver and passenger front door mechanisms could be in need of repair. Spokesperson Miles Johnson tells Autoblog that Hyundai will be working with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to recall vehicles that are already in customer hands (roughly 1,300 units have been sold since the first examples hit dealerships over the past couple of weeks), and the company will begin shipping replacement latches to its 790 dealers tomorrow in order to fix both customer and dealer stock Sonatas as soon as possible. Once the new latches are installed (a process that Johnson says takes about an hour per vehicle), the stop sale will be ended.

Johnson also acknowledged that Hyundai is keenly aware that the eyes of the media, public, and Capitol Hill are on Toyota and NHTSA at this time, and the company hopes to effect a swift and complete fix for this door latch issue on a model range that is expected to remain the company's volume leader.
 

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hyuandai's name has come a long way in the last several years, but they need to hire some designers that stop ripping off other cars on looks. The genesis looked almost like a benz, and now this car looks like the new lexus sedans from the front.
 

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U.S. safety regulators have opened a preliminary investigation into claims that Hyundai Motor Co.’s best-selling car in America, the Sonata sedan, may have steering problems.

National Highway Traffic Safety Administration officials opened the preliminary investigation into the 2011 Hyundai Sonata Friday.

There have been no injuries or accidents reported to NHTSA or Hyundai regarding the steering issue, government and company officials said.

NHTSA said it g issue could be present on 16,300 Sonata sedans built in one month at Hyundai’s plant in Alabama. NHTSA said Sonatas cited in its reports each had fewer than 600 miles driven on them.

NHTSA will investigate consumer complaints that “the steering shaft allegedly decoupled from the hand wheel resulting in a complete loss of steering capability,” according to NHTSA.

Hyundai spokesman Jim Trainor said 2 Sonata customers brought their sedans to Hyundai dealerships complaining of steering problems. Those cars were fixed and returned to the owners, he said.

Sonata is a key to Hyundai’s success in the U.S. market. Through July, Sonata sedans accounted for 46% of Hyundai’s car sales this year.

The Sonatas for the U.S. and Canadian markets are built in Alabama. Sonatas sold outside those markets are built in South Korea, where Hyundai and its sister company Kia are headquartered.

Hyundai’s U.S. sales are up 23% from last year through July, and U.S. sales for the Sonata were nearly 18,000, according to Autodata. In 2009, Hyundai was the only major automaker to increase sales and market share.

Kia’s share of the U.S. market so far this year is 3.1%.

In 2008, Hyundai sales accounted for 3% of the U.S. market. Through July this year, its market share is 4.6%.

NHTSA officials had no comment beyond papers filed on its site.

Last month, the agency opened a similar preliminary investigation for the Kia Soul after a driver complained of a total loss of steering and limited braking in a car that was 2 months old and had about 4,300 miles on it.

The Soul is the rival to the Scion xB from Toyota’s brand targeted at younger drivers.

Kia sales through July were up 16%, outperforming the U.S. market’s 14% gain.
 

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while having our 05 Hyundai Elantra GT, with over 100,000 miles, serviced on 7/26 we looked at the other cars they had. We spotted a '11 Venetian Red 6MT sonata. We took it for a test-drive and ended up trading the elantra for it. It is a comfortable rattle-free car with better quality paint than our tsx. Just wish it had more options-such as sunroof, power seats, etc. It does show when to shift. it now has just over 4,000 miles.
 

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SEOUL (Reuters) – Hyundai Motor, South Korea's top automaker, will recall some 139,500 Sonata sedans sold in the United States, due to problems with the steering wheel that could cause a loss or reduction of control.

The automaker announced the recall after the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) opened a probe into steering problems in August, a move analysts said was aimed at heading off criticism that it was slow to respond.

"Hyundai's pre-emptive action is fast enough to avoid any criticism in handling safety issues," said Kim Byung-kuk, an analyst at Daishin Securities.

No accidents or injuries occurred as a result of improper assembly or loose steering connections, Hyundai said in an email statement on Sunday.

The vehicles were built from December 11 through September 10.

Hyundai sold 128,484 Sonata sedans in the period from January to August, 35 percent of its U.S. car segment sales during the period.

The firm's latest recall comes as the auto maker seeks to increase production of the Sonata, its best-selling model in America, at its plant in Alabama.

Lee Sang-hyun
, an analyst at Hana Daetoo Securities in Seoul, said the recall is unlikely to hit Hyundai's sales.

"However, since potential defects related to assembling are not a significant problem with its quality, it will barely impact Hyundai's sales," Lee said.

In February, Sonata, underwent the first recall this year that affected 47,000 units in South Korea and U.S. due to front door lock faults.

Hyundai has been one of the stronger performers in the U.S. auto sector in recent years, gaining market share and logging an 8.3% sales increase in 2009, while the industry fell 21% overall to the lowest levels since the early 1980s.

Hyundai's affiliate Kia Motors said in early September its co-chief executive resigned to take responsibility for nearly 86,000 recalls of some of its models, including the Soul compact sedan.
 

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Hose


Hyundai's eagerly anticipated Sonata 2.0T model has just begun hitting U.S. showrooms, but a small quality issue that cropped up in the first batch of cars is causing some consternation. Conversations have been popping up on internet forums about the issue, and there has been some confusion as to the nature of the problem as well as questions about whether or not a stop-sale has been ordered by the company.

A small rubber hose that feeds oil to the turbo unit in very early 2011 Sonata Turbo models was apparently built to the wrong specification and needs replacement. According to a few user forum reports, some dealers haven't been allowing customers to test drive the vehicles until the correct part has been fitted. Additionally, at least one of the first 2.0T owners informed Autoblog that his dealer actually flat-bedded his car back for service. However, Hyundai officials tell Autoblog that this issue affects very few units, and they want to make it clear that no stop-sale has been issued.

Hyundai spokesman Dan Bedore:

"In about 30 cases, we had to get with customers who already had their cars. We're using the new hose in production and have finished retrofitting those that were built but not sold. We asked dealers to replace the hose before delivery but didn't issue a stop sale. No lost sales, no big disruption, the customer comes first – that's business as usual for Hyundai."

Hyundai says it only sold around 30 units before the hose problem was discovered, and the company has only built around 1,000 units in total, most of which are still in transit to dealers. All new Sonata turbos rolling off of assembly lines are being fitted with the new part, and all new models sold will have the correct hose installed.

Hyundai's Sonata line has been an extremely strong seller since its introduction earlier this year, quickly moving the Korean automaker into third place in the hotly contested family sedan segment. However, the Sonata has also suffered some early teething problems, including the recall of 1,300 units over a possible door latch malfunction in March and the recall of 139,500 units over steering problems in late October.
 
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