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TORRANCE, Calif., April 3 /PRNewswire/ -- The 2004 Acura TSX sports sedan will be priced at $26,490 for both the 6-speed manual model and the 5-speed automatic model, when it goes on sale today at Acura dealers nationwide. The Acura Navigation System with Voice Recognition is the only available factory- installed option and is priced at $2,000.
The all-new Acura TSX sports sedan combines a 2.4-liter, 200-horsepower engine, drive-by-wire throttle control system and race-bred suspension with an ergonomic interior filled with the latest technology to deliver performance, refinement and style. Slotted in the Acura lineup between the RSX sports coupe and the 3.2 TL performance luxury sedan, the TSX is designed to compete with other premium sports sedans from Europe and Japan.

The body of the TSX offers best-in-class aerodynamics and crisp sports sedan lines. The interior is sporty yet refined with modern LED-illuminated instrumentation, intuitive controls, and a long list of standard luxury amenities including perforated leather seating, leather-wrapped three-spoke sport steering wheel with integrated audio and cruise control switches, dual-zone automatic climate control, power moonroof, 360-watt Acura 8-speaker Premium Sound System with 6-disc in-dash CD changer, power windows and door locks and keyless entry.

2004 Acura TSX Highlights:
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Powertrain
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-- 2.4-liter DOHC i-VTEC aluminum alloy 4-cylinder engine
-- 200-horsepower at 6800 rpm and 166 lb-ft of torque at 4500 rpm
-- Drive-by-wire throttle system
-- Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI)
-- Choice of 6-speed manual transmission with magnesium housing or
5-speed automatic transmission with Sequential SportShift
-- LEV-2 exhaust emission control system
-- 110,000-mile tune-up interval

Chassis
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-- 4-wheel-independent double-wishbone suspension with multi-link rear
-- Torque-sensing, variable power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering
system
-- 17-inch alloy wheels with V-rated all-season performance tires
-- Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) with Traction Control
-- 4-wheel disc brakes with Anti-lock Braking System (ABS)

Features
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-- Dual-zone automatic climate -- Steering wheel-mounted audio
control system and cruise control switches
-- Perforated leather seating -- Tilt and telescopic steering
-- Power moonroof column
-- Heated front seats -- Keyless entry system with window
-- 8-way power driver's seat with controls and panic button
adjustable lumbar support -- High Intensity Discharge (HID)
-- 360-watt 8-speaker Acura headlights
Premium Sound System -- Optional Acura Navigation System
with Voice Recognition


Pricing for 2004 Acura TSX
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-- TSX with 6-speed manual transmission $26,490
-- TSX with 5-speed automatic transmission $26,490
with Sequential SportShift(R)

-- Acura Navigation System $2,000

Destination and handling charge $500





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Engine Type


Aluminum Alloy in-line 4-cylinder



Displacement (liters)


2.4



Horsepower (SAE net)


200-hp @ 6800 rpm



Torque


166 lbs-ft @ 4500 rpm



Valvetrain


16-Valve, DOHC, i-VTECTM



Redline


7100 rpm



Compression Ratio


10.5:1



Fuel System


PGM-FI Multi-Point Injection



Injection System


Electronic Direct



Throttle Control


Drive-by-Wire Throttle System



Emission System


LEV-2



Cooling System Capacity


Manual: 5.4 U.S. quarts (5.3 liters)


Automatic: 7.4 U.S. quarts (7.3 liters)



Crankcase Refill Capacity, including filter


4.2 U.S. quarts (4.0 liters)






Body Type


Unit Body



Suspension


4-Wheel Independent Double-Wishbone/Multi-Link Rear



Stabilizer Bars, diameter (front/rear)


26.5 mm / 14.0 mm



Steering Type


Variable Power-Assist Rack-and-Pinion



Brakes: 4-Wheel Disc with ABS (front/rear)


11.8-inch ventilated/ 10.2-inch solid



Wheels


17-inch Alloy Wheels



Tires


P215/50 R17 93V All-Season Radials






Acura Navigation System with Voice RecognitionTM (available)



360-watt Acura Premium Sound System with 6-disc in-dash CD changer and 8 speakers



Dual-Zone Automatic Climate Control System



Sport seats with perforated leather trim interior



Driver's 8-way power seat with adjustable lumbar support



Heated front seats



Leather-wrapped steering wheel



Theft-deterrent system with electronic immobilizer



Cruise control



HomeLink® system



Power moonroof with tilt feature and sliding shade



Power windows with driver's auto-down/up with auto-reverse



Power door locks with key-operated windows down/up feature



LED illuminated instruments



Titanium-finish console and door trim (Ebony and Quartz interiors)



Simulated wood-grained console and door trim (Parchment interior)



Leather-wrapped aluminum gear shift knob



Tilt and telescopic steering column



Steering wheel-mounted controls (cruise, audio and voice activation)



Front door storage compartments



Driver's and passenger's seatback pockets



Covered in-dash storage compartments



Dual trip meters



Exterior temperature indicator



Front center console with adjustable armrest, storage compartments and coin holders



Rear-seat center armrest with dual beverage holders



60/40 split fold-down rear seatback with lock



Carpeted floor mats



Stainless steel door threshold trim



Remote trunk release



Remote fuel-filler door release



Lockable glove compartment with light



Interior ambient console lighting



Progressive self-illuminating gauges



Illuminated power window switches and ignition switch



Cargo area light



Dual 12V power outlets



Dual overhead map lights



Driver's and front passenger's illuminated vanity mirrors and driver's side card holder



Sunglass holder



Digital quartz clock



Maintenance interval reminder



Dual beverage holders (front and rear)






Driver's and front passenger's dual-stage airbag supplemental restraint system (SRS)



Driver's and front passenger's side airbags with front passenger's height and position sensors



Side curtain airbags



3-point adjustable-height seat belts with load limiters and pretensioners (front)



3-point seat belts at all seating positions



4-wheel anti-lock braking system (ABS)



Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) with Traction Control



LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children) child-seat mounting system



Impact-absorbing crumple zones (front/rear)



Xenon High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlights



Rear window defroster with timer



Front side-window defoggers



Side-impact door beams



Collapsible steering column



Breakaway inside rearview mirror



Automatic day/night rearview mirror



Impact-absorbing interior surfaces



Safety glass



Child-proof rear door locks



Adjustable seat headrests (front and rear outboard positions)



Non-protruding switches and controls



Automatic transmission interlock feature






MP3 Player or Cassette Player



All-Season Floor Mats, Front & Rear



Steering Wheel, Wood-Look & Leather



Interior Trim, Metal-Look



Interior Trim, Light Wood-Look



Trunk Tray



Luggage Net



Engine Block Heater

TSX Automatic


5-Speed Automatic with Sequential SportShift,(TM) Grade Logic Control and Lockup Torque Converter



TSX Manual


Optional: Close Ratio 6-Speed Manual with Magnesium Transmission Case



Gear Ratios

TSX Automatic

TSX Manual



1st

2.652

3.267



2nd

1.517

1.880



3rd

1.082

1.355



4th

0.773

1.028



5th

0.566

0.825



6th

0.659



Reverse

2.000

3.583



Final Drive

4.440

4.760







EPA Estimated Fuel Mileage (city/highway)


Manual: 21/29* mpg


Automatic: 22/31* mpg



Fuel Tank Capacity


17.1 US Gallons (65 liters)



Recommended Fuel


Premium unleaded 91 octane or higher**



Minimum Ground Clearance (unloaded)


6.2 in (157.5mm)



Curb Weight


Manual: 3230 lbs (1465 kg)


Automatic: 3318 lbs (1505 kg)


Manual with Navigation System: 3241 lbs (1470 kg)


Automatic with Navigation System: 3329 lbs (1510 kg)



Weight Distribution (% front/rear)


Manual: 60/40


Automatic: 61/39



Headroom (front/rear)


37.8 in (960 mm) / 37.3 in (947 mm)



Legroom (front/rear)


42.4 in (1076 mm) / 34.2 in (868 mm)



Hiproom (front/rear)


54.4 in (1381 mm) / 54.4 in (1382 mm)



Shoulder room (front/rear)


55.4 in (1406 mm) / 53.5 in (1360 mm)



EPA Passenger Volume


91.0 cu. ft.



EPA Cargo Volume


13.0 cu. ft.



* Preliminary EPA mileage estimates determined by American Honda Motor Company, Inc.. Final EPA mileage estimates were not available at the time of printing. Use for comparison purposes only. Your mileage may vary.


** Gasoline with an octane number lower than 91 may be used, with reduced performance.





Power-operated, body-colored outside mirrors



Keyless entry system with remote-down windows



17-inch alloy wheels



Auto-off headlights



Body-colored door handles with chrome trim



Heat-rejecting green-tinted glass



Galvanized body panels



Body-colored front and rear bumpers



Speed-sensing, intermittent windshield wipers



Integrated rear glass antenna



Dual-outlet exhaust






Vehicle: 4-year/50,000-mile limited warranty*



Outer body rust-through: 5-year/unlimited-mile limited warranty*



Accessories: 4-year/50,000-mile limited warranty**



2.4-literI-4 engine: No scheduled tune-ups required for 110,000 miles***



* Ordinary maintenance items or adjustments, parts subject to normal wear and replacement, and certain other items are excluded. See your Acura dealer for the terms and conditions of limited warranties.


** When installed at the time of new-vehicle delivery.


*** Does not apply to fluid and filter changes or periodic inspections. Please refer to the maintenance section of your owner 's manual to determine all appropriate maintenance intervals.





Moonroof Visor



Car Cover



Full Nose Mask



Door Visors



Door Edge Trim



Wing Spoiler



Front Under Body Spoiler



Side Under Body Spoiler



Rear Under Body Spoiler



17" Aluminum Alloy Wheels (3 designs)



Splash Guards



Fog Lights



Chrome "A" wheel emblems - set of 4



Gold "A" wheel emblems - set of 4



Wheel Locks



Gold Emblem Kit
 

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ahhh... expensive...
well gatta test drive it tho

i was expecting 20k ~ 25k
Yea preety expensive will be test driving mine next week.
 

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How would we tell Acura they should lower it? I mean the price is almost a TL, what's stopping us for opting for that? There should be a difference of price range so they can attract more custumers especially those with a smaller wallet :D
 

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Acura is not worried, with only 15k units to sell, they will all sell. As for the price difference between the TL and TSX, this too shall pass.

With the TSX filling the gap as the new "entry level" luxury sedan (the role that the TL previously had), I'd bet when the TL is redesigned and available by end of year, it will be priced and marketed higher up.

I've got my test drive scheduled for Saturday and will be curious to see the differences.

If my hunch is right, the TL will be "discounted" by dealers by around mid summer and by way of factory to dealer incentives. Honda has never offered factory to consumer rebates. My assumption is based on the premise that the new TL willl be repositioned higher in content, performance and price. Look for Honda to reposition the TL as an Infinity G35 competitor, more horsepower and 6-speed manual.

Most will see the opporutnity to buy the current TL as a "good deal," especially compared against the TSX. Of course once the new TL becomes available, then those people may start kicking themselves for not waiting? But the price will be higher and so you have to weigh it all and figure out what your really want and what you can afford.
 

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keep in mind that this TSX is not expensive compared to the competition (IS 300, A4, S40 and some 3 series). Is the price real close to the TL...yea, but a base TL is $29,480 and a base TSX is $26,990. So there is a small gap, but the new TL is going to be in priced towards the low to mid 30's i would guess. For the money, this is a great car compared to the few I mentioned above. Also...how many people have an A4 and IS and 3 series. This is a chance to get something that not many people have. Also, Acura isn't for people with a small wallet in general. That's why there are honda's.
 

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dudevolley,

You bring up some good points, but keep in my mind that the TL is at the end of its current lifecycle and I don't know where you live but out here no one is paying anywhere close to list price. So with the TSX as a brand new model and the TL ready for a redesign, you could see some pricing overlap or at least very close.
 
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is the accord not faster and cheaper?

Granted, not cheaper by much, but the accord coupe V6 EX 6-speed has more power and a very similar look. Compare the two, feature by feature, on the acura site using the comparison link. They're very close.

Major differences seem to be the bigger engine vs the longer warranty and name.

It surprises me that acura is listing this car for more than the ex v6 6sp. Given the choice, I'd probably opt for the extra horses and save a few hundred bux.
 

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Re: is the accord not faster and cheaper?

phlsteve said:
Granted, not cheaper by much, but the accord coupe V6 EX 6-speed has more power and a very similar look. Compare the two, feature by feature, on the acura site using the comparison link. They're very close.

Major differences seem to be the bigger engine vs the longer warranty and name.

It surprises me that acura is listing this car for more than the ex v6 6sp. Given the choice, I'd probably opt for the extra horses and save a few hundred bux.
I agree with you on this one i mean the car is 27k and its a 4 cyl.. will let you guys know how the test drive goes. :D
 

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Re: is the accord not faster and cheaper?

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Granted, not cheaper by much, but the accord coupe V6 EX 6-speed has more power and a very similar look.
how in the WORLD can you say they have a similar look?
Accord is UUUUUUUUUUGLY compared to TSX
Coupe OR Sedan...
 

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It's higher than I thought it would be. I was expected about $22-$25. But I took a test drive yesterday and it was NIIIIICE!! It comes with SO many really good standard features. I love the LED gauges. The car feels good and steady when I drove it. Excellent pick-up speed. And the SOUND SYSTEM!!......that doesn't even sound like a factory system if you ask me! It's the best factory sound system I've EVER heard. I brought a few a my CDs to test it out. Like I said, I'm not too thrilled about the price, but I think it's worth it now that I've taken a drive in it.
 

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Funny how real world driving doesn't always equal written specs?
 

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It's higher than I thought it would be. I was expected about $22-$25. But I took a test drive yesterday and it was NIIIIICE!! It comes with SO many really good standard features. I love the LED gauges. The car feels good and steady when I drove it. Excellent pick-up speed. And the SOUND SYSTEM!!......that doesn't even sound like a factory system if you ask me! It's the best factory sound system I've EVER heard. I brought a few a my CDs to test it out. Like I said, I'm not too thrilled about the price, but I think it's worth it now that I've taken a drive in it.
Did U drive the manual or sportshift?
 

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Accord is UUUUUUUUUUGLY compared to TSX
Pehaps you are correct when comparing the Sedans. However, the coupe is another matter altogether. The Coupe is one helluva sharp looking car.

One the other hand, the TSX's styling is rather bland. Even the Audi A4 and BMW 3 series look better.
 

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OK, just got home from my test drive and here's my two cents.
Drove both the auto and manual back to back and while the auto is nice, still prefer the manual. The 6-speed has a more direct feel to it and seems to help acceleration somewhat, at least that's my perception.

Now for the not so great news... both cars are competent, well balanced and have good features. But I never felt either would be confused for a high performance model (Type-S). But the more I thought about it I realized that even though these are Acura badged, they are in essence a Honda Accord. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but they are no threat to BMWs or Audis.

And in case anyone out there is sitting on the fence as I was about the merits of the TSX vs an Accord V6 coupe with 6-speed manual, here is something to chew on. In case you haven't checked recently, we went straight to the Honda dealers after our test drive while the TSXs were still fresh in my mind to do a test drive with Accord 6-speed and found out that they are in such short supply, dealers can't hardly get them.

The dealer I went to just happened to have one and told me due to the shortage, they were getting $2K over list! And that was the Fleet department, the retail department is getting $4K over list. So guess what boys and girls, unless you think a $30K Accord Coupe makes a lot of sense, without Navi, you may want to rethink the TSX, or possibly the TL? Hardly seems like a contest at this point.
 

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And in case anyone out there is sitting on the fence as I was about the merits of the TSX vs an Accord V6 coupe with 6-speed manual, here is something to chew on. In case you haven't checked recently, we went straight to the Honda dealers after our test drive while the TSXs were still fresh in my mind to do a test drive with Accord 6-speed and found out that they are in such short supply, dealers can't hardly get them.

The dealer I went to just happened to have one and told me due to the shortage, they were getting $2K over list! And that was the Fleet department, the retail department is getting $4K over list. So guess what boys and girls, unless you think a $30K Accord Coupe makes a lot of sense, without Navi, you may want to rethink the TSX, or possibly the TL? Hardly seems like a contest at this point

I've been sitting on that fence for too long. If that bit of info is true about the V6 6spds, then I'm leaning back a little more to the TSX now. A 30K V6 Coupe doesn't sound as nice now. :mad:
 

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im just glad im not needing to buy a car right now.. cuz by the time i'm ready to buy i figure prices will have evened out a little bit...

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I'm hitting 180K on my accord and still going strong. I pulled up to a 98 red civic with some white multi spoke 17s and a sport exhaust. Made eye contact for a split second and when the light turned green we both mashed the gas and went for it. He kept up for about three seconds but when I hit 5rpms in third gear my car blew past his. Not an exciting race story, but I was excited that my car screamed at 5rpms and creamed his newer model civic w/his sport muffler. I didn't think I could get that car, all stock automatic 92 Accord, to hit 5rpms and pull past him so fast . I had to give a show because the guy smurked when I pulled up to him and besides he had on some decals that made his car look ugly. I'm not hating on any civic drivers. There are some clean and FAST civics out there but most are done with 2 foot spoilers,altezzas tails, and ugly kits that don't match the car.
Point of my story is that I think I can put another ~50Kmiles before that car starts to break down and that waiting till the end of the year stinks because I'll see some TSXs and Accord Coupes that I'll be jealous of but not so much that I would go out and buy one without shopping around and trying to get the best deal.
Not expecting to get a deal on a TSX at the end of the year if I can even find one then, but I think it will be worth the wait for the Accord.
If anyone is interested in a clean and reliable
( sometimes fast ) 92 Accord LX get ahold of me. I'm the second owner and the first owner was a lady that used it to commute to work daily and put on about 90K. New distributor, new radiator, replacing both half axles very soon, fairly new rotors and brakes, very punctual with oil and filter changes, hoses and belts replaced recently, new spark plugs and fairly new ignition wires, 65K Firestones w/ 15K on them, all electric and mechanical things work well, and never was in a accident or driven eratically except when provoked by cars in its' class. Since I'll have the car another year I was thinking of getting new shocks, struts and springs. (I can email pics and the sort for anyone that is interested). Otherwise I need to save my money and see what kind of deal I can get at the end of the year.
 
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