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I know this subject has been discussed many times. I fell in love w/ a silver TSX 5AT. The dealer allowed me to test drive a manual. I kinda liked the 6M since I have a sportbike. However, I ended up buying the 5AT because I thought the ability to use both automatic and manual was totally cool.I take delivery of the car in a couple weeks. Just curious as to how other owners feel about this much debated issue, Manual V. Automatic.
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I've always preferred manuals over automatics. However, after getting married and having a kid, I now find that my wife and I have to trade cars every now and then. So, since she can't drive stick, I had to get the auto. Another thing is, the older i get, the more injuries I seem to have (actively mountain bike, play racquetball and basketball). On at least 3 or 4 occasions, I've had to drive a manual car to work with a sprained ankle or knee after injuring myself over the weekend. It is never an enjoyable experience.

Notice that I don't cite the typical reason (long commute in stop and go traffic) as to why I got the auto. The reason is, IMO, it is actually more comfortable and easier to drive a manul in stop and go traffic. I find that many times, I am able to just leave the car in 1st gear and roll along. With the auto, I have to constantly shift my right foot back and forth. Furthermore, I find that my back and butt tend to get sore and fall asleep more with the auto. In a manual, I am working both of my legs and, even in stop and go traffic, it is a more tolerable experience.

The biggest thing I miss about the manual? No longer having the ability to choose the precise gear I want. I absolutely hate how auto transmission cars shift at moments you don't want them to - like in the middle of a turn. I also hate how there is a lag btw the moment you choose a gear to when the transmission actually shifts. Even worse, I hate how the speed of this delay varies so, sometimes, you can't even properly anticipate when the auto trans will shift. THis is most problematic when you are headed for a turn. When I am driving briskly and I downshift before I hit a turn, sometimes, the transmission actually makes the shift when I'm in the turn itself. This seems very dangerous.

With respect to my auto TSX, I find the sportshift hardly any more fun than a regular automatic. The difference in enjoyment between shifting the auto w/ sportshift to a true manual transmission is akin to the difference between looking at porn and having sex.

Can you tell that I miss driving a manual? :mardi:
 
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Great note, thanks. I have a bit of Arthritis on my left hip and sometime shifting hurts a bit. Therefore, I think the AT may be better for me.
Appreciate your time and knowledge.
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I prefer automatic bc I am just a tad too A.D.D. for a manual
I like having my hand free to multitask instead of having to shift & I never remember to shift ... I rarely use the SportShifter bc when I come to a stop light/sign, I forget to shift back up and I end up doing like 40mph in 1st gear b4 I realize why my engine sounds like it is workin overtime ...
 

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I drive a manual car normally, but we bought the TSX for my wife who doesn't like to bother. I've driven it plenty, and I'll tell you, it's very pleasant for a daily driver. It's an excellent automatic - it shifts extremely smoothly and is lag-free, unlike some other Honda automatics. If you've ever driven, say a Civic ATX, and you're worried about the TSX, forget it. It downshifts as soon as you want power and off it goes. It will make an excellent caily driver with the autobox.

In fact, even though I drive a manual in my car, I never use the the Sport Shift, because I don't have to.
 

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I have an automatic and hate the way it shifts. It comes out of first way too soon. To the point where it labors in second.
 

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I like both on the TSX.

I prefer having a manual, but I picked auto at the end.
1. thought it looks like a family car (4 door) and should be auto... just some stubborn thinking...
2. if i buy new car later, I can give it to my gf or bro... (they dont' know how to drive manual). So if I buy manual, I will be stuck with it forever, ha ha...
 

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mtnbiker said:
Pocketkiller,
That's exactly what I do, but it still doesn't seem right.
Then there is a problem....but remember each gear has a different gear ratio, so 1st may be set up that way. You just might be coming from a car that has a much taller first gear.
 

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mtnbiker said:
Pocketkiller,
That's exactly what I do, but it still doesn't seem right.
Wait a minute. Pocketkiller suggested that you use the sportshift to avoid your problem of the car shifting out of 1st way too soon. You say that you do use the sportshift, but it still doesn't seem right. How is that possible? With the sportshift, the car will only upshift to 2nd when you manually shift it. So, how can the car shift out of 1st too soon if you are using the sportshift?

If the problem is that 2nd gear seems weak, maybe you should rev a little higher in 1st so that when you shift into 2nd gear, it will be at a higher rev and have more power.

If you still think the car labors in 2nd gear. Well, that's the nature of a 4 cylinder equipped auto transmission car. It just won't have the nice torquey feel that a 3.2 or 3.5 liter 6 cylinder or a 5.0 liter V8 will have.
 

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Sorry for confusion I use the sportshift to compensate for what happens when I leave it in the automatic mode. when i'm in sportshift everything works fine. Altozgo you are probably right the engine needs more torque, but you would think because of the lack of torque it would hold first longer. If no one else is having this problem I guess I'll live with it. One other question I have for everyone with automatic. Does your transmission downshift when going down a hill? This is also a first for me. I never had an automatic that downshifted when I was braking and decellerating.
 

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mtnbiker said:
Does your transmission downshift when going down a hill? This is also a first for me. I never had an automatic that downshifted when I was braking and decellerating.
I think your car is downshifting not because you are going downhill, but b/c you are braking and decelerating. When your car drops below a certain speed, it will automatically downshift - even when you are in sportshift mode.

For example, if you are in 5th on the sportshift and you slow to under 5 mph, the car will probably drop all the way back down to 1st gear on its own.
 
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