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This analysis was done shortly after reaching 10,000 miles on the oil, or 10 months. It was last changed at 50,000 in February and changed recently in December. Total mileage on the car is about 60,500 miles. No oil was added during this period as I wasn't losing any during my routine checks. The oil filter used was the TSX Purolator PureOne.



As you can see from the results, the oil has plenty of life left in it with Blackstone recommending 12,000 miles next time and checking that. At my current rate, that would push me to full year intervals. My only concern is of course the bearing wear, though that isn't attributed to the oil itself.

This December when I changed the oil I again used this oil, only this time I used the NAPA Platinum oil filter designed for synthetic oil. I'll change it out at 12,000 and post my results at that time.
 

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I'll be sending out my oil for analysis once im due for a change. Im eager to see the results.
I've seen a few blackstone oil reports for k series motors.. I never understood the vast fluctuations in lead content. Since I drive all highway, I wonder if my lead content will differ..
 

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How the hell do you guys run 8k-10k miles on a single oil change ? Which oil do you use ? And also do you reset the oil change three times a year or its goes from 100% to 0% withing the miles you run?
 

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I believe 10k/12months is the recommended interval. Which ever comes first. I reset it 2 times then go by the 3rd one. Since you don't drive the car as much you just need to change it every 12 months.
 

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Conventional oil will net you 3-5k miles between changes, synthetic can go 8-12k.
the MID uses a simple algorithm, the interval is usually around 4-5k miles
 

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How the hell do you guys run 8k-10k miles on a single oil change ? Which oil do you use ? And also do you reset the oil change three times a year or its goes from 100% to 0% withing the miles you run?
The exact oil I use is in the thread title haha. And yes I reset that thing at least twice. I think from 100% to 0% is about 5,000 miles, though I never let it get that low since the alerts bug the hell out of me after 10% I think it is.
Conventional oil will net you 3-5k miles between changes, synthetic can go 8-12k.
the MID uses a simple algorithm, the interval is usually around 4-5k miles
Yes unfortunately it isn't "smart" and doesn't actually detect oil breakdown. I wish you could at least input your own predefined mileage intervals.
 

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A few things here IMO..

Don't forget that Honda doesn't manufacture motor oil or any oil. It's just rebranded oil with a Honda sticker on it.
Who knows who makes it and who would know if Honda changed the supplier.
This is not just Honda but any automobile manufacturer including oil filters and possibly other maintenance items also.

Despite the oil analysis, running 10 000miles on a single oil filter is never recommended. While synthetic oil will last longer than conventional oil, it will still get just as dirty.

I would recommend a maximum 5000 miles on the oil filter.
Replace it, then top off the oil.
 

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Strangely enough, Acura has their logic backwards from yours, CalgaryTSX -- they recommend a filter change every SECOND oil change. So in Canada, that's about one filter change every 10,000 MILES. In the USA / non-severe, that's about one filter change every 20,000 MILES.

Although... I figure if I'm getting dirty I might as well replace the filter every oil change anyhow. ;)
 

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If you use synthetic, its most definitely a waste to change every 5k miles. The MID for the TSX uses an algorithm thats good for conventional oil intervals. I usually just count the miles and replace my oil every 10-11k.

I'm going to be sending my oil out for analysis to see how what the Pennzoil Platinum 10w30 + OEM filter is doing for me.
 

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A few things here IMO..

Don't forget that Honda doesn't manufacture motor oil or any oil. It's just rebranded oil with a Honda sticker on it.
Who knows who makes it and who would know if Honda changed the supplier.
This is not just Honda but any automobile manufacturer including oil filters and possibly other maintenance items also.

Despite the oil analysis, running 10 000miles on a single oil filter is never recommended. While synthetic oil will last longer than conventional oil, it will still get just as dirty.

I would recommend a maximum 5000 miles on the oil filter.
Replace it, then top off the oil.
The oil Honda/Acura currently uses is not unknown, it's been ConocoPhillips since 2010. Before them, it was ExxonMobil. Source: http://www.naylornetwork.com/tpm-nwl/articles/?aid=125801&issueID=21878 And a pretty good version if memory serves me right. Despite who they went with, they chose to use this with their cars, instead of other oils. I'm not saying this is definitely the best oil but Hondas, but it's damn good and just might be, at least for daily driving.

What curls said is right. Plus, if Blackstone says my oil had plenty of life left in it, then it did, regardless of the filter. That said, the filter I'm using now is a NAPA Platinum, designed for synthetics. We'll see how that goes.
 

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Hi All,

I did Blackstone when I first purchased my TSX, and then one not too long ago (80K). I originally did the TBN just to check the car vs what the oil was actually doing. I changed it at about 5K, and the oil life indicator said it was due. Blackstone test result was that there was approx 1K left in the oil. This was originally Mobil 1 Full synthetic.

My more recent test result, did not do TBN, but just regular analysis. Conclusion was normal engine wear for a K24 with 80K on it.


So I think that going 10K is a bit much, and less than 5 is a waste. But, what filters is everyone using? I currently found some K&Ns and have been using them with mobil 1 0-20.

Will have to do an analysis on that combo and see what I get for a TBN @ 5K.

What filters is everyone else using that tested their oil?
 

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Hi All,

I did Blackstone when I first purchased my TSX, and then one not too long ago (80K). I originally did the TBN just to check the car vs what the oil was actually doing. I changed it at about 5K, and the oil life indicator said it was due. Blackstone test result was that there was approx 1K left in the oil. This was originally Mobil 1 Full synthetic.

My more recent test result, did not do TBN, but just regular analysis. Conclusion was normal engine wear for a K24 with 80K on it.


So I think that going 10K is a bit much, and less than 5 is a waste. But, what filters is everyone using? I currently found some K&Ns and have been using them with mobil 1 0-20.

Will have to do an analysis on that combo and see what I get for a TBN @ 5K.

What filters is everyone else using that tested their oil?
Yikes. Just goes to show the difference between Mobil 1 and Honda's synthetic oil. I would just start using a different oil to increase your intervals and thus save twice the amount of money and it's better for the environment.
 

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An oil change is the cheapest maintenance that will have direct long term effects on engine life. Irregardless of anything, engines wear and oil breaks down. I'd rather change it at 5k and know I'm good to go, than run for extended intervals and risk increased wear on my internals... But that's just me, I'm not a tightwad.... Hondas maintenance recommendations are influenced by too many outside opinions (I worked for Honda, and like any manufacturer, when you push oil changes out to 10k miles, it lowers the estimated services costs and overall ownership costs of a vehicle...when you're selling it brand new. Similarly, manufacturers are switching to 0w20, mainly to meet new EPA standards... Not because it benefits the consumer by extending engine life.)

Everyone makes their own decisions, but every vehicle I've ever worked on with over 200k miles had regular oil changes done at least every 5k miles.
 
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