from what the dealerships in ny are telling me is that its very difficult to find them with navigation because when they made the cars they made most without the option and are finding out now that more people want the acura TSX and TL with the factory installed navigation system in it...it would be great if you could just buy a non-nav car and have the dealership put it in for you after you make the purchase but its too bad its a factory installed option...im hoping when i make my decision i dont have to wait 3-6 months for my car....im hoping for a time frame of 1-2 months possibly if i get lucky 3-6 weeks...