[Duke]

I got this from a friend of mine, who's an auto-industry analyst and general statistics nut. "Horespower per litre" is a semi-meaningless term that Japanese-car fanboys love to hype, but this is an interesting list. I suspect that "torque per litre" would have a quite different arrangement.

For reference, power per liter of a few other N/A four-cylinders:

Acura TSX: 83.33
Acura RSX: 80.00
Mazda Miata: 78.89
Mazda 3i: 74.00
Pontiac Vibe/Toyota Matrix/Toyota Corolla: 72.22
Nissan Sentra: 70.00
Nissan Altima/Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V: 70.00
Mazda 3s/Mazda 6i: 69.57
Hyundai Elantra/Hyundai Tiburon/Kia Spectra: 69.00
Honda Civic: 67.65
Suzuki Aerio: 67.39
SUBARU LEGACY/SUBARU OUTBACK: 67.2
Honda Accord/Honda CR-V/Honda Element: 66.67
Scion tC/Toyota Highlander/Toyota RAV4: 66.67
Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute/Mercury Mariner: 66.53
Dodge Neon: 66.00
Chevrolet Cavalier/Chevrolet Cobalt/Pontiac Sunfire/Saturn Ion: 63.64
Suzuki Forenza/Suzuki Reno: 63.00
Chrysler PT Cruiser/Chrysler Sebring/Dodge Caravan/Dodge Stratus/Jeep Liberty: 62.50
Mitsubishi Lancer: 60.00
Volkswagen Beetle/Volkswagen Golf/Volkswagen Jetta: 57.50

 

[larchmont]

Actually that's pretty interesting.

P.S. Do we also have the most hp per milliliter?

 

[PrecyseStylez]

I got this from a friend of mine, who's an auto-industry analyst and general statistics nut. "Horespower per litre" is a semi-meaningless term that Japanese-car fanboys love to hype, but this is an interesting list. I suspect that "torque per litre" would have a quite different arrangement.

For reference, power per liter of a few other N/A four-cylinders:

Acura TSX: 83.33
Acura RSX: 80.00
Mazda Miata: 78.89
Mazda 3i: 74.00
Pontiac Vibe/Toyota Matrix/Toyota Corolla: 72.22
Nissan Sentra: 70.00
Nissan Altima/Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V: 70.00
Mazda 3s/Mazda 6i: 69.57
Hyundai Elantra/Hyundai Tiburon/Kia Spectra: 69.00
Honda Civic: 67.65
Suzuki Aerio: 67.39
SUBARU LEGACY/SUBARU OUTBACK: 67.2
Honda Accord/Honda CR-V/Honda Element: 66.67
Scion tC/Toyota Highlander/Toyota RAV4: 66.67
Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute/Mercury Mariner: 66.53
Dodge Neon: 66.00
Chevrolet Cavalier/Chevrolet Cobalt/Pontiac Sunfire/Saturn Ion: 63.64
Suzuki Forenza/Suzuki Reno: 63.00
Chrysler PT Cruiser/Chrysler Sebring/Dodge Caravan/Dodge Stratus/Jeep Liberty: 62.50
Mitsubishi Lancer: 60.00
Volkswagen Beetle/Volkswagen Golf/Volkswagen Jetta: 57.50

I guess the Acura RSX that they are referring to is the Base Model because the Type-S is 100HP Per Liter..(2.0L Engine = 200HP) and i use to have a 2003 Toyota Matrix XRS which had 100HP per liter..(1.8L Engine = 180HP)

 

[Andynolife]

I guess the Acura RSX that they are referring to is the Base Model because the Type-S is 100HP Per Liter..(2.0L Engine = 200HP) and i use to have a 2003 Toyota Matrix XRS which had 100HP per liter..(1.8L Engine = 180HP)

i drove my frd's XRS for many times .. ~~
did u find that it doesn't feel like a 180hp car ~ i think a 160hp RSX can go faster than it ~

 

[PrecyseStylez]

i drove my frd's XRS for many times .. ~~
did u find that it doesn't feel like a 180hp car ~ i think a 160hp RSX can go faster than it ~

What year is his car?..after 2003 the car lost HP..dropped from 180HP to 170HP..and Cam Switch comes in at like 6,800rpms compared to my 2003's 6,200rpm switch..which makes that car not fun to drive anymore because you'll always land out of LIFT with the new model XRS's..but i know my car felt nothing like a Base RSX..since i've beatin a couple Type-S's before..

 

[Andynolife]

it's a 03 .. ~ u beat Type-S with XRS .. ~~ r u kidding me?? ~
i smoked its ass from 0km~wutever ~ i thought XRS just dont run cuz it's just too heavy for shuch little tq ~

 

[Noel]

Honda happens to manufacture an engine producing the highest or second highest horsepower per litre output in the world. If I'm not wrong from the top of my head.

I'm surprised no one has spoken about that model.

 

[Andynolife]

Honda happens to manufacture an engine producing the highest or second highest horsepower per litre output in the world. If I'm not wrong from the top of my head.

I'm surprised no one has spoken about that model.

S2K :bowdown:
but M3 and M5 r amazing .. for such huge displacement comepare to Honda's

 

[Noel]

No doubts about the M models indeed.

 

[PrecyseStylez]

it's a 03 .. ~ u beat Type-S with XRS .. ~~ r u kidding me?? ~
i smoked its ass from 0km~wutever ~ i thought XRS just dont run cuz it's just too heavy for shuch little tq ~

The Toyota Matrix XRS only weighs 2,700lbs to 2,800lbs..which is pretty light for what it is..not too far from a RSX-S..your friend just doesnt know how to drive it..its pretty tricky to stay in LIFT..its all about a clean shift with the XRS..and it can be a b!tch..my friend has a XRS also with all the mods i had on my XRS minus a "Unichip" and he put about 4 cars on me from 3rd gear to 5th and would've kept pullin until i shut down when i was in my TSX 6speed..

 

[Andynolife]

The Toyota Matrix XRS only weighs 2,700lbs to 2,800lbs..which is pretty light for what it is..not too far from a RSX-S..your friend just doesnt know how to drive it..its pretty tricky to stay in LIFT..its all about a clean shift with the XRS..and it can be a b!tch..my friend has a XRS also with all the mods i had on my XRS minus a "Unichip" and he put about 4 cars on me from 3rd gear to 5th and would've kept pullin until i shut down when i was in my TSX 6speed..

well .. it's a totally differenet story with chip ... ~
yes i think it req. quite a bit skill to drive it fast cuz the lack of tq.. ~

 

[Noel]

The TSX is hard to maintain a constant VTEC powerband as well even with bolt-on mods. Well, just about all the Hondas except the S2000 and NSX can be tricky to drive if you can't keep the powerband in the optimal rev range.

 

[PrecyseStylez]

The TSX is hard to maintain a constant VTEC powerband as well even with bolt-on mods. Well, just about all the Hondas except the S2000 and NSX can be tricky to drive if you can't keep the powerband in the optimal rev range.

Yea..the TSX falls out of VTEC and when shifting from redline you land around 5,000rpms which is 1,000rpms from VTEC..thats why i miss my XRS (powerwise) because i never fell out of the sweet spot when shifting..and if i did it would only be like 200rpms short and then WHOOOOOOOOOOOOT..If the TSX had REVS like the RSX-S has it wouldnt fall short from VTEC after shifting at redline, keeping you in VTEC through all gears

 

[Noel]

It's basically how the gearing ratio is setup on the TSX that determines how the powerband is "played out". You can improve this by using a lighter flywheel or changing to a larger final drive to keep you in the powerband optimally. These are the easiest options, of course there are other choices involving ECU fuel/VTEC mapping.