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Where are you located? I've had my car for a few months I know how bad it feels..lol how long the throws are and when a gear is going to grind because of the cheap clutch honda makes for our cars.In the plans, but I need a local test car. The top part of the shifter is different then the fist gen, also different for the accord. I would also like a driver that has driven the car for a few moths, and knows the shifter like his right hand.
He must have installed it wrong, just like how I did it the first time. After my first install, it had alot of play in it, but I chalked it up to it being the first short shifter that I have used. I decided to go back and re-do it, and now there is absolutely no play in it.I was talking to a guy a couple of weeks ago and he had the CT kit. According to him it was trash, he said it had play a lot of play in it. W/e.
I did this about 3 weeks ago, posted pics and review about it (for the CT) interested in an entire replacement short shifter for the car though. Hopefully you are close enough and can help make this piece happen.The ct short shift kit fits the new tsx. I can be the tester for the 2gen TSX if your company wants to make one for us.
Good old NH!Where are you located?
Great.. keep up the great work man!Good old NH!
Well I had sometime to play with the ball today. I found that the ball itself wasn't round by any ball grinding standard. I measured anywhere from 1.368" to 1.376". About .008" deviation from high to low. In machining standards +/- .005" is acceptable, but for this piece I wish they were better. It is still amazing that Honda got that consistent when they put thousands of pounds of pressure from the other end to merge the two parts together.
The oblong shape can cause inconsistent wear along the plastic base. Over time this could lead to loose play in the shifter feel. I went on and tried to find a few ball manufactures today. I am looking for grade 100. This grade holds tolerances within .0005". A little overkill for this application but beneficial I think. The search continues for the part and I am waiting on a few quotes from different vendors.
There are a few ways to go about this project to make it the best shifter ever. There are millions of ways it can be done and achieved, resulting in many different designs. I can make the height adjustable although price and manufacturing will vary. Personally I think that 1/2" - 3/4" shorter than OEM piece is perfect. I love having my elbow on the arm rest and shifting, and I dont want to take away from that comfort, especially in long trip driving. 99% of people here I think would not want to go lower than 1", and I would agree. Too low and the feel of the shifting will be lost. Making the handle longer than stock is where I would question why? I did have a longer shifter in my EG, and came to the realization that my hand placement needs to be just right or the feel of the shifting is gone.Nice idea here...I am going to offer some unsolicited input.
i. adjustable handle for ideal reach
ii. counter-weighting to make shifts smoother
iii. makes shifts faster without increasing effort.
I would say your solution is going to improve shift action, but will fall short of being the best shifter you could make. I would make the handle slightly taller than stock, compensate by extending the bottom to maintain the ratio of a short throw, and add a mass on shaft that is equidistant from the pivot as the ball on the bottom is. With these changes you'd have the ultimate shifter for this car.
If it comes out good, I would buy the design off you for the right price.
I agree. I am doing this out of pocket and time, and Im not trying to get rich here. I have limited time to spend on this due to work load, and I dont want to spread myself thin with too many projects. They will come with time, dont worry. I want to take this one step at a time and not rush. I cant afford to stop the machines for side projects.How about we let awok finish his project before we start some kind of list. He's doing this on his own time and money, he just happens to have access to the machinery needed.
The last thing I want to see is his design and enthusiasm for this project diminish due to trying to satisfy too many sources of varying input for the design or trying to satisfy a demand for the completed product.