The Gymkhana Fiesta uses paddle shifters for the 6-speed. That tall lever is the parking-brake.
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Side note: Mugen visors came in Marcus, they're great

No Healtoe plate holder tho
Oh...so what you are saying is, that the shifters should be as close to the wheel as possible, and when in a rally car it is best to move the eb-brake closer as well? I see how my comparison is not literal and direct, but you can see how the concept of a taller shifter is truly and completely verified by the example anyway.
Sorry on the plate frame, we didn't ship the visors direct. If you email us we'll send one if you want tho
Well Marcus I totally disagree with you. Tall shifters are a waste of time!!! I can make a tall one just for you to enjoy, but man you are sure trying to sell the tall shifter idea. I know my car better than you do. I have driven it for 125K now and I definitely dont want my shifter any higher. Making me raise my elbow and causing me discomfort in long drives and cruising to work. The shifter height is fine stock but its can be 3/4" shorter for better feel. No one in here will want a 3 foot shifter in their car, it's just fact!!!!!!
I have owned/raced every B-series and H-series swap in the book along with all the different chassis. A shorter shifter if one of the first things I did. It makes the car feel better and the shifting better, it's just fact. I'm not going to make 3 foot clown shifters just cause Joe Shmow runs it in in his all out race car. Lets face it most people want a slightly shorter shifter, if you feel differently then the door is open for you to pursue the 3 foot shifter you always wanted.
To each his own, totally.
Honestly, the logic loses me a bit though...long drives on the freeway typically don't involve much shifting. Hell, even in traffic I don't row around much...maybe you should keep your hands on the wheel and you won't have problems with your arm falling asleep. Or better yet, buy an auto!
The whole 3 foot thing is making me think that you really do have different motives here. Yes most people want a slightly shorter shifter. And then again, most people don't know a whole hell of a lot about driving and car control either. Sure, you can have your opinion on the shifter...but please don't degrade mine. I've got more than enough experience selling "3 foot shifters" to know exactly what I am talking about. In fact I am just shot off a PO for more Fastline Civic/Integra shifters. I only sell about 200 a year. That's a lotta Joe's...and no they mostly are not going into all out race cars.
Frankly, with this post, I have lost a bit of respect for you. Technically you really seem to be plugged into the engineering. But this sort of exaggeration is pretty unnecessary. I have tried to be as supportive as possible and gave my opinions. You are welcome to do whatever you like man, but you don't have to whip out the sarcasm. Maybe you missed the point of this post...
mrheeltoe said:
A few things I have learned over the years, especially dealing on here:
1- If you make something that you like, you will get buyers like you. But if you are rare of breed it turns into small or excessively time consuming and low profit business.
2- Opinions are like belly buttons. Everyone has one. Some are in, some are out. All matter at some point or another. Most or all are completely useless for anything other than collecting lint.
3- People buy based on value and referral. If you have a beat on customer's values, you can own markets. A taller shifter will perform better, guaranteed. If customers value a shorter shifter for it's feel (usually it is looks, though) then that is the way to go.
You don't seem to dispute the performance aspect of the taller shifter if your main gripe here is calming discomfort. Do whatever you want man. I am sure you will have a decent product to offer if you believe in it and the customers are on board with you. I never noticed that a TSX was an uncomfortable car to drive in any aspect. Maybe I am the weird one. No matter that, though. Just keep it cool.
I agree with AWOC. The first thing I did was installed the Mugen SS because I felt the factory shifter was too tall and put unnecessary pressure on my elbow up into my shoulder. The (slight) drop in knob height took all pressure off my elbow and put my right arm in more of a relaxed position that is MUCH more comfortable. This was my favorite modification of them all. I NEVER fell like I am reaching for the shifter and because it is shorter, I don't have to move my arm very much to switch gears. There was NO increase in shifting effort either.
Yeah, you guys completely are missing my point then. You are thinking of grabbing the shifter while your elbow is on the armrest. I am thinking of a shifter that is being grabbed from the 3 o'clock position on the steering wheel. You know, where it should pretty much stay most of the time.
It all comes down to priorities, I guess. One works better for driving, the other works better for being mellow. I, myself, am more of a driver and would prefer my shifter to work great while I am driving the wheels off my car. If you don't do that sort of driving, you will never appreciate the short reach off the wheel a longer shifter will provide.
PS, I commute in my car as well, and would think that something that makes the car perform better when I am having fun is well worth some compromise when my mind is shut off.