Yep, and infact depending on how the camber is you might not need the camber kit. Esp. if you are only going for a 1 inch drop.Noel said:Makes no difference on when you install the camber kit, but I'd suggest doing it after when you ride height has been changed. That way, you can make alignment adjustments accordingly to optimize your new setup.
Yeah...found a guy who will let me use his shop/tools to do it for 100$....and someone to do the alignment for 90....so thats what im probibly gonna do...jprovostla said:I've got a quote for $150 to install all 4 springs... which takes about 1.5 hours...
But you need a good wheel alignment after which will cost close to $100...
Good luck...
Or you could do the Neuspeed/Koni struts and the Eibach Prokit Springs for less than $800, AND have a strut with adjustability. This is cheaper than full coilovers and would give a much better ride than the ProKit alone.virtualbong said:I'm still undecided about whether or not I want to go right into lowering my car, but I've been doing as much research as I can. It looks like I could get a full coilover kit for around $1000 and then the Ingalls Rear Camber Kit for like $200 (right???) or I could just get the Eibach Pro Kit for $250 and the Ingalls Rear Camber Kit for $200. So the totals would be $1200 vs. $450. BIG DIFFERENCE. Since my main purpose for lowering the car would be to purchase some aftermarket wheels, which will most likely cost me over $1000, I'm thinking that the more realistic plan is to go with just the Eibach Pro Kit and Rear Ingalls Camber Kit. I read in this by Noel that the camber kit is very simple to install and that it doesn't even require instructions. You basically just look at what's in place currently, remove the bolts and add the new kit. Now, I read that the camber kits can be adjustable, how do we know what setting we should adjust it to? Does this make sense? I'm still trying to understand the camber kits, so bear with me. I've installed springs before on my Integra and helped my bro with his WRX, so I'm somewhat experienced with the spring install so I'm not afraid to tackle this DIY project, but its the camber kit that I'm not knowledgable on. Right now on my Integra I have 1.5" all around GoldLine Springs matched with my stock shocks and its pretty abusive. Its fine on flat roads, but if there's any imperfections with the road, its a pretty harsh thump, especially when I had the 40 sidewalls on my 17s. Now that I have the 45 sidewalls and 16s it can withstand some potholes and railroad tracks. I'm hoping that this setup won't be as bad as my current Integra setup. I guess I'm just wondering if this "bouncing" feeling from just the Eibachs is really that bad or is it because one is very picky. I wish I could ride in someone's car with that setup to compare with what I got now on my Integra.
Thanks LannyM, I did see this and I'm going to try to make a decision in the upcoming weeks. I really would like some aftermarket rims, but if I go with the entire strut/spring combo, I probably won't have enough for rims. We'll see though.LannyM said:Or you could do the Neuspeed/Koni struts and the Eibach Prokit Springs for less than $800, AND have a strut with adjustability. This is cheaper than full coilovers and would give a much better ride than the ProKit alone.
If you do the install yourself, you need to bring the car in for a professional alignment fairly soon. Bring in the instructions with your camber kit; the tech will use them to help him set the camber. You're probably looking to be around -1.0 degree rear camber; factory spec range is -1.5 to -.5. This is one thing you will not be able to do yourself.
Some install techs can get the car very close without an alignment rack due to years of experience. In this case, I would suggest driving around for a couple of weeks to let the springs settle before getting an alignment. But, if the settings were way off (and if you do it yourself they might be), a bad toe setting could wipe the tires out in a matter of a couple of days.
Oh, and I think one of the board sponsers, UltraRev, has the Ingalls rear kit for $139......
UltraRev/Ingalls Camber Kit
The camber kit is adjustable and would be adjusted by the person performing the alignment on your car. The way most people install the kit is to simply adjust the arm to match the length of the stock arm and install it that way. This will keep you at the baseline stock amount of camber (unless of course you lowered your car in which you will have increased negative camber, but to the exact same degree as you would have w/ the stock part).virtualbong said:Now, I read that the camber kits can be adjustable, how do we know what setting we should adjust it to? Does this make sense? I'm still trying to understand the camber kits, so bear with me. ... <snip>.... Right now on my Integra I have 1.5" all around GoldLine Springs matched with my stock shocks and its pretty abusive. Its fine on flat roads, but if there's any imperfections with the road, its a pretty harsh thump, especially when I had the 40 sidewalls on my 17s. Now that I have the 45 sidewalls and 16s it can withstand some potholes and railroad tracks. I'm hoping that this setup won't be as bad as my current Integra setup. I guess I'm just wondering if this "bouncing" feeling from just the Eibachs is really that bad or is it because one is very picky. I wish I could ride in someone's car with that setup to compare with what I got now on my Integra.
Yeah, the preferred coilovers seems to be the Teins. They cost wayyyyy too much so I think I'm going to stick with the Eibach Pro Kit and Koni Yellows. And definitely the Rear Ingalls Camber Kit. Can someone link me to the Rear Ingalls Camber Kit that I would have to pick up? Doesn't one of the sponsors sell a set for a decent price?LannyM said:Koni/Neuspeed Struts $550 on eBay.
ProKit $200 on eBay.
The only coilover that comes close in price would be the Tein Basic, which is going to have a much higher spring rate, and no damping adjustabilty.
The H&R coilovers look interesting, but they're $1k, and still no damping adjustability, and I've yet to find out the spring rates.
LOL, that's the same link I posted right above you. Well, at least you've confirmed it. Now I just need to find the best places to pick up the Eibach Pro Kit and Koni Yellows.AlterZgo said:The Ingalls Camber kit can be purchased here for $139.99:
http://www.ultrarev.com/ecart/shopexd.asp?id=26952