Long story short, I purchased one of each of these brand new because I wanted to hear them both in person before I decided which one I enjoyed better. It turns out that I love them both, but unfortunately I have to part with one of them. They are both in absolute mint condition, and each have a nice, deep tone to them. I'd like to get what I paid for them, but there's always room to negotiate. Send me a PM if you're interested in either of them.