Well I finaly got to drive them and I now can't wait. I drove the TL because my Dad came with me and he is going to get a TL probably this month but what a car it was It was so smooth and great it handeled very well. The TSX was all I thought it would be decently fast the automatic isn't as bad as I thought it would be I was planning on getting a 6-speed but the manual mode is nice although it's not a true manual and not as fun it will do so I can go ahead and get my car. I believe that on Monday when I get to work I will order the ABP Auto with NAV.