VIGOR sighting!!!!! :tongue hanging out:

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larchmont

Discussion Starter · Mar 17, 2004

Yes, I finally saw one!

No sooner did I get done haranguing PRBallard and all the other Vigor fans about how you never see any Vigors any more, when I saw one this afternoon going south on the Henry Hudson Pkwy, then exiting to the GW Bridge. I think the car was black, but it was hard to tell because of the snow and gloomy air. Driver was a sharp-looking black dude, on a cell phone. Sux! Not because I think it was dangerous for him to be on the cell phone, but because if he was on the phone I couldn't wave to him.

Long live the Vigor! :bowdown1:

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prballard

· #21 · Mar 25, 2004

I don't think they started losing their way until 1996 and even more so in the later 90's. I have many friends that still have 2nd generation Legends that they really love. The first generation was a wonderful car, but they had to move it up scale (larger body) if they wanted the car to be their flagship. I think they got it right until the Legend/RL came out in 1996 (there is that year again). I had a 1996 RL as a loaner one time. What a floaty boat. I thought I was driving a Lincoln. The Legend (either generation) didn't drive like that.

Larch, buddy, I think you are a minority on this one.

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larchmont

Discussion Starter · #22 · Mar 25, 2004

prballard said:
I don't think they started losing their way until 1996 and even more so in the later 90's. I have many friends that still have 2nd generation Legends that they really love. The first generation was a wonderful car, but they had to move it up scale (larger body) if they wanted the car to be their flagship. I think they got it right until the Legend/RL came out in 1996 (there is that year again). I had a 1996 RL as a loaner one time. What a floaty boat....
Larch, buddy, I think you are a minority on this one.

.....among maybe a couple other things.

Well yes, I'm not one of those who thinks "flagship" needs to have anything at all whatsoever to do with "larger," at least not beyond a certain point, and the late-'80's Legend was just about my limit on a car's size before it starts becoming WHAT YOU SAY -- a floaty boat, no matter how great a car it is and how well it handles. (Maybe then it wouldn't be floaty but it'd still be a boat.)

But "minority" or not, I think it's a complicated subject, because, don't you think MOST people agree that for whatever reason the late-'80's Legend was a BETTER car than the early '90's version? And if that's so, I'd have to surmise it's because for whatever reason the main great aspects of the Legend started getting obliterated as the size increased. Certainly they would for me, inherently.

And we do see quite a few people on these boards who prefer smaller cars -- e.g. it's one of the reasons that some people prefer the TSX over the new TL (hey, including PRB too, right? .....come to think of it!), and one of the reasons that quite a few people prefer it over the old TL (although I'm sure that even most TSX'ers wouldn't throw a 7-series or Maybach out of bed). So it's a minority, but not a tiny one.

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prballard

· #23 · Mar 25, 2004

My point was the 90's Legend was hell of a good car and the general public to this day still holds them in high regard. But come to think of it I did buy a Vigor instead.

Even though the Vigor had a long length and wheelbase it was considered a compact, just like my new ride. :bowdown:

I am in general agreement with you, but I think you are being too hard on the 2nd generation Legend.

On a positive note I believe/hope that the 05 RL is going to be a hell of a nice car and make us forget about the 96 to 04 RL That was definately a bad idea from the beginning. It supposed to be bigger than a 5-series and smaller than the 7, about the same size as the Lexus GS, 300 hp and AWD. The Legend lives!!! :bowdown:

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