What do y'all think of the WRX STi vs. TSX
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They are completely different cars. Drive both and figure out what suits your needs better. There's no question that an STi could hand a TSX an ass whoopin on the track, but I wouldn't want to have an STi as a daily driver.
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Well...for one thing, it doesn't come with a radio... You'll have to add it and upgrade speakers, etc. It'll cost around 900?
You won't get a sunroof.
You get a really big spoiler in the back.
You won't get homelink.
No xenon headlamps (I think)
no leather interior (doesn't matter to me)
no sweeet looking interior
Ok...that's all I can think of right now...
You won't get a sunroof.
You get a really big spoiler in the back.
You won't get homelink.
No xenon headlamps (I think)
no leather interior (doesn't matter to me)
no sweeet looking interior
Ok...that's all I can think of right now...
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Yeah...what Dan saidDan Martin said:
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Yeah, I did a comparison on them at carsdirect.com and saw all the stuff the STi is lacking in the way of creature comforts. The daily driver comment is a real good point, since that's how it will used. If I had a ton of money I would get both...TSX for luxury sport driving and the STi for balls to the wall race car like driving. I think my old bones will thank me in the long run for getting the TSX. Right?
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But if you go with the STi, you won't have problems choosing the interiorHondaMan said:Yeah, I did a comparison on them at carsdirect.com and saw all the stuff the STi is lacking in the way of creature comforts. The daily driver comment is a real good point, since that's how it will used. If I had a ton of money I would get both...TSX for luxury sport driving and the STi for balls to the wall race car like driving. I think my old bones will thank me in the long run for getting the TSX. Right?
lolTSX 'R' US said:But if you go with the STi, you won't have problems choosing the interior
I agree with Dan as well. If you're going to be spending a lot of time in the car M-F (long commute, bad traffic) or will other transport people in it other than yourself, I think you'd be happier with a TSX... especially if your 'old bones' have anything to say about it
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I think this artilce from the U.K.'s Auto Express sums it up well...
Mitsubishi Evo VIII MR FQ-340
With 342bhp, revised suspension and a tuned four-wheel-drive system, the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII has raised the performance car ante yet again.
Aimed directly at Subaru's Impreza WR1, the Evo VIII MR FQ-340 looks similar to the company's previous flagship FQ-330, but promises a very different driving experience. We got behind the wheel to find out what it's like.
After the £32,999 price tag, the first things that hit you are the revised headlamps, gunmetal paintwork and bright red MR badging (it stands for Mitsubishi Racing). Aerodynamic roof winglets are fitted to improve airflow, and the engine management system has been reprogrammed to raise the output to 342bhp, while improving throttle response.
Uprated Bilstein suspension smooths the ride a bit, but the car is still far from refined. A toughened steel synchro on the six-speed box has made gearshifts slicker, yet this latest Evo is an animal. Acceleration is brutal, with 0-60mph in only 4.4 seconds. The competition-style anti-lock brakes need to be warmed up before they really bite into the huge discs, while grip from the Yokohama tyres is astonishing. But as with previous Evos, the MR has been designed purely for speed - and despite having a practical four-door body, it soon becomes uncomfortable on long motorway journeys. The performance is a big improvement over its predecessor, but the price you pay is rising all the time.
Dan Strong
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/previews/previews_story.php?id=47189
Mitsubishi Evo VIII MR FQ-340
With 342bhp, revised suspension and a tuned four-wheel-drive system, the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII has raised the performance car ante yet again.
Aimed directly at Subaru's Impreza WR1, the Evo VIII MR FQ-340 looks similar to the company's previous flagship FQ-330, but promises a very different driving experience. We got behind the wheel to find out what it's like.
After the £32,999 price tag, the first things that hit you are the revised headlamps, gunmetal paintwork and bright red MR badging (it stands for Mitsubishi Racing). Aerodynamic roof winglets are fitted to improve airflow, and the engine management system has been reprogrammed to raise the output to 342bhp, while improving throttle response.
Uprated Bilstein suspension smooths the ride a bit, but the car is still far from refined. A toughened steel synchro on the six-speed box has made gearshifts slicker, yet this latest Evo is an animal. Acceleration is brutal, with 0-60mph in only 4.4 seconds. The competition-style anti-lock brakes need to be warmed up before they really bite into the huge discs, while grip from the Yokohama tyres is astonishing. But as with previous Evos, the MR has been designed purely for speed - and despite having a practical four-door body, it soon becomes uncomfortable on long motorway journeys. The performance is a big improvement over its predecessor, but the price you pay is rising all the time.
Dan Strong
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/previews/previews_story.php?id=47189
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I was in the same situation before I got my TSX. I really wanted the Evo VIII, but I was replacing my SUV with this next car. My wife believe it or not also wanted to get the Evo. After debating it back and forth I decided to get a TSX. Here were observations:
Evo: 271hp, AWD, awesome brakes, 4doors, Xenon lights, LATCH, & sunroof
Tsx: 200hp, leather, Navi, Xenon lights, Latch, sunroof, better trunk space, Acura reliability, and finally the one that made me choose over the TL - the gas mileage is GREAT
A fast car is fun to have until you have to drive it everyday everywhere. I have a modified DSM and I really enjoy getting to drive my TSX. In the end you need to pic the car that meets your needs.
Evo: 271hp, AWD, awesome brakes, 4doors, Xenon lights, LATCH, & sunroof
Tsx: 200hp, leather, Navi, Xenon lights, Latch, sunroof, better trunk space, Acura reliability, and finally the one that made me choose over the TL - the gas mileage is GREAT
A fast car is fun to have until you have to drive it everyday everywhere. I have a modified DSM and I really enjoy getting to drive my TSX. In the end you need to pic the car that meets your needs.
Top Gear tested a FQ-320 vs. WR1 on their track this week. Lap times:hip said:
FQ-320: 1:26.0
WR1: 1:29.4
Owned! The WR1 is actually slower than the FQ-300, and the FQ-320 is 2/10's behind the Lambo Gallardo. I wonder how much faster the 340 is.
Here's the link to all the lap times (not updated with this week yet).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/powerlaps/
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Isn't interesting with all the advances in technology that it all still comes to this... speed costs, how fast do you want to go and how much do you want to spend?
That saying has been around since the '50s when American Hot Rods were really coming into their own. So much has changed and yet so much remains the same.
In those days, and well into the '60s, '70s and even '80s if you wanted a truly fast car with great handling you had to give up comfort. The power increased and mileage got worse. The tires got wider, body dropped lower and the ride got harder. It was part of the compromise you made.
Some manufacturers were able to mitigate some of those annoyances through technology. I believe the Corvette was one of the first to offer active suspensions to help soften the ride when cruising and stiffen it for racing. But it too was a compromise as were the Lincolns with their air bladder spring suspensions. Others soon followed, but to really have a "hard core" racer, you always had to sacrafice comfort for handling. You can't deny physics, soft ride means wallowing in the turns and that just doesn't translate to fast cornering.
Looking back over time, not much has really changed since those years regarding these aspects. True, engines have gotten smaller and more powerful, brakes and tires are better, suspensions are more composed and advanced, but for ultimate performance you can't escape the sacrafices to the god of speed. "If you want to go fast, you have to ride hard."
As I always like to say, "life is a compromise." What are you willing to give up and what can't you live without? For most of people these priorities will change over the years. Usually when you are "young and crazy" you want to go as fast as you can because... your're invincible!
If you survive and live long enough to mature, you usully get married, sanity and self preservation start to kick in (for most anyway). You know this because a little voice repeatedly tells you to slow down and stop acting so crazy (usually your spouse).
When you approach middle age, you go through a mid-life crisis and realize, hell, I ain't gonna live forever so I better get me one of those "bombs" before I croak.
So you run out buy that Porsche, BMW, MB (maybe even an EVO or WRX) and live like a teen ager again. Eventually, you realize this sled sucks, it rides as hard as "56 Schwinn and every expansion strip is shaking my filings loose!
So you face reality head on, sell the "bomb"and buy something sensible again like a TSX or TL or Lexus or a bigger BMW or MB depending how succesful you've been.
And that my friends is the "automotive circle of life." :king:
"Hakuna Matata. It means 'No worries'!"
-- Pumbaa
That saying has been around since the '50s when American Hot Rods were really coming into their own. So much has changed and yet so much remains the same.
In those days, and well into the '60s, '70s and even '80s if you wanted a truly fast car with great handling you had to give up comfort. The power increased and mileage got worse. The tires got wider, body dropped lower and the ride got harder. It was part of the compromise you made.
Some manufacturers were able to mitigate some of those annoyances through technology. I believe the Corvette was one of the first to offer active suspensions to help soften the ride when cruising and stiffen it for racing. But it too was a compromise as were the Lincolns with their air bladder spring suspensions. Others soon followed, but to really have a "hard core" racer, you always had to sacrafice comfort for handling. You can't deny physics, soft ride means wallowing in the turns and that just doesn't translate to fast cornering.
Looking back over time, not much has really changed since those years regarding these aspects. True, engines have gotten smaller and more powerful, brakes and tires are better, suspensions are more composed and advanced, but for ultimate performance you can't escape the sacrafices to the god of speed. "If you want to go fast, you have to ride hard."
As I always like to say, "life is a compromise." What are you willing to give up and what can't you live without? For most of people these priorities will change over the years. Usually when you are "young and crazy" you want to go as fast as you can because... your're invincible!
If you survive and live long enough to mature, you usully get married, sanity and self preservation start to kick in (for most anyway). You know this because a little voice repeatedly tells you to slow down and stop acting so crazy (usually your spouse).
When you approach middle age, you go through a mid-life crisis and realize, hell, I ain't gonna live forever so I better get me one of those "bombs" before I croak.
So you run out buy that Porsche, BMW, MB (maybe even an EVO or WRX) and live like a teen ager again. Eventually, you realize this sled sucks, it rides as hard as "56 Schwinn and every expansion strip is shaking my filings loose!
So you face reality head on, sell the "bomb"and buy something sensible again like a TSX or TL or Lexus or a bigger BMW or MB depending how succesful you've been.
And that my friends is the "automotive circle of life." :king:
"Hakuna Matata. It means 'No worries'!"
-- Pumbaa
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excellent choice...I commmend your selection :thumbsup:HondaMan said:Great thread...thanks y'all!
I'm setting the ball in motion tomorrow for a NBP Ebony 6spd w/ NAVI!
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