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musicman3636
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My car is shaking when I reach a certain speed of 60mph after I go over that speed the shaking stops. I also have shaking when I brake as well and I heard thats a warped rotor. Please let me know what this could be. Axles, Rotors, wheel bearings, something like that.
 

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when your breaking and it shakes..its cuz your rotors are warped. about your shaking at a certain speed, it could be a few things... it could be your axels. but 1st off, look at your rims. any bends? take the time and take the rims off the car so you can inspect the inner lip of the rims for bends. normally, it would be the front 2 rims that will cause shaking. this happened to my old honda accord. HTH
 

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That's easy.

Shaking when braking is definitely warped rotors. Go to a shop and if you don't want to change pads that's fine, but you need your rotors cut. The shaking usually comes from the front (that's where most stress comes), so you can just do the front 2 first, and if it still shakes later a bit, do the rear ones. If you don't replace the pads, make sure they also sand those down to make them flat, but if they're in bad condition, I'd recommend replacing those too.

Shaking at certain speed is most likely unbalanced wheel/s. Go to a shop and have all your wheels balanced again. Maybe you replaced a tire without balancing, or maybe you rubbed a curb or something or just lost a rim weight. Also check tire pressure. These are the first things to do. If the shaking continues, it may be something with the suspension.
 

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musicman3636
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Well it's definetely not the rims because they are 2 months old plus I checked for bends and came up with nothing. The tires are also balanced so it's definetely something else. Can warped rotors cause shaking at a certain speed? I was planning on getting aftermarket drilled rotors anyway. So maybe axles or wheel bearings............hmmmmmmm
 

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Judging by your avatar it seems you have aftermarket wheels, if your wheels don't have hub-centric rings or they do but it is the wrong size you have bent lug studs, i speak from prior experienced. take the wheel of and check, pretty easy to miss.
 

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musicman3636
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it was actually doing the same thing with my stock wheels. I just changed to the new rims on Friday. Trust me it's the same as before. Still shakes when braking and accelerating around 60mph then stops a little bit after that.
 

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if your rotors are extremely warped, then maybe...
I'd start with the rotors work. That will take away your braking shake. If after then you still have other shaking, we can start thinking more.

What matiasneto said is very true, I didn't even think about that, but if you had the same exact shaking with OEM wheels that you know where balanced and in perfect shape, then it can't be hub centricity being off.
 

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musicman3636
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So u think this is serious I would hate to drop alot of dough on this but I will definetely change the rotors to start off. I found this on ebay RINGS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem190289220266QQitemZ190289220266QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories u think I should get this to be on the safe side. I guess it wont hurt me to get it, it's fairly cheap. Let me know guys I appreciate all this info for real.
 

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your link is not a link, try again. Whatever you plan to do, the first thing to do is either replace the front rotors and pads, or cut your existing rotors and even up the pads (or replace them).
 

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musicman3636
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I will buy the rotors this week and I will post an update if the shaking stopped or not. I hope all the shaking is gone after that. WHEN ROTORS ARE WARPED, IS IT VISIBLE AT ALL OR DO U HAVE TO FEEL FOR THE WARP?
 

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Peregrine, full of knowledge! :tu:

Since your saying it happens with your oem rims as well as aftermarket, i would say its a bent axle. if your car is under warrenty, throw the stockies back on and take it to the dealership. they "should" be able to tell you whats wrong. and with any luck, they will fix free of charge. i tell you to put the oem rims on, because then they cant blame the shaking on your aftermarket rims. Good Luck!
 

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musicman3636
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unfortunetely the car is not under warranty. The axles cost about $60-$70 each and I could probably put them on but I'm gonna change the rotors first and then see if it still shakes. If it still does I will change the axles.
 

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I'd hold off with any axles work until all else is checked. Keep in mind guys, our cars are made in Japan, they're not the american made crap where you have to replace axles after few years. If you haven't hit anything that would cause severe damage I doubt you'd have problems with your axles.
Based on all above I'd check/correct everything in this order:

1. Check/correct tire pressure
2. Check/correct wheel balancing
3. Check/correct wheel hub centricity
4. Regardless of all above, cut/replace front rotors and even-up/replace front pads
5. If shaking still exists, do the same as in 4. above but on rear brakes.
6. If all above doesn't fix it, have a specialist shop check your suspension.
 

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musicman3636
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THATS AWESOME INFO. He's an interesting theory, I believe the car was hit before because of the paint on the car and the freaking front bumper is not flush at all. Driving the car it doesnt feel that bad only when braking and of course the vibration around 60mph other that that the car is fine. Just wanted to point that out. Oh and the vsa light stays on but thats probably a sensor.
 

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well... then, maybe there are some more serious susp./axles problems, aftermath of the collision, but I'd still start by following the list in my previous post.
 

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ok guys i have been experiencing this issue as well, and i have been thinking about posting it for a few months but i haven't. I consider myself fairly experienced/knowledgable, and here is usually where i come first to help if i can when i log on. So here is my dealing with this issue and ideas.

Ok, I am going to describe my issue in detail even though i am 99% sure you are experiencing the exact same thing. Upon acceleration in any gear, the car starts to shudder at 60 then stops around 68 or so. It does not shudder under deceleration. Note: my car did not do this when i bought it, and it has progressively gotten worse and worse. it began as only slight vibration at 60 and has progressed to very noticeable shudder that starts at 60 peaks at about 63~ and tapers off until its gone about 68. This has taken approximately 3 months.

I am owner number 2 of my 04. The first owner said the only collision that happened ended in a bumper replacement, that was performed by Acura. Car tracks perfectly straight. So collision is not the issue. I have had warped rotors before, and it is only doing it under acceleration not deceleration or braking. My rotors on my TSX are not warped, so they dont have anything to do with it. I have had bad wheel bearings before, there is no metal on metal squeaking, and that would shudder at a constant speed not under accel, decel, braking or turning. I have stock wheels. So it isnt the center ring thing. I have not touched the wheels nor hit anything major that would dislodge a weight on the wheel. However i have not checked the balance. But i have had this issue before as well. It has been my experience that this would cause a big vibration at low speed and taper off as speed increases because the centrifugal force of the wheel will eventually balance it out enough for the suspension to absorb all or most of the vibration and you wont feel it. I don't think it is flat spots in the tire, because we have abs, i haven't engaged abs, i dont have uneven tire wear, and i rotate my wheels anyway. Not to mention i drive spirited enough that the turns would take care of my uneven tire wear if i did have any. Do not think it is transmission related because i would think it would do this at a certain rpm level in each gear. I have no CELs or Sensor lights (ABS, VSA, etc.).

Ok (i already see this is a long one i apologize), Axles... potentially yes, as it makes sense since they are behind the output shaft of the transmission so they will be rotating at a speed relative to the speed of the car, so that makes sense. but how? Granted I do drive very spirited several times a week, to include catching second, third, and sometimes fourth (on a good day LOL). But, I just don't see a stock clutch clamping enough torque to bend/warp/unbalance the axles... thoughts please?

EDIT: when i drive in a spirited manner, i do not launch from a dig. I roll into first then get on it.

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true, a long read, but a good summary. Based on all you said I do believe it's wheel balancing you have a problem with. If there was a previous owner there, even though all looks ok, you never know exactly what happened in the past.
This sounds like a typical case of unbalanced wheel(s). Depending on the degree of deficiency, you may experience shaking at different speed, but minor deficiency is usually apparent between 50-70 mph, so you're right in that range. Start there, and let us know what happens.
 
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