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Here you all go.. just some information why ppl buy what they buy and if you think our cars have alot of problems.. you just try to buy another car lol..

"Where Does Your Car Rank On List Of Most Likely To Need Repairs?
Friday January 26, 2007
So you're looking for a new car and you're wondering about the one thing we all do - price.

That's one factor that comes into play when a buyer enters a showroom. But here's another. Cars are complicated machines and can often break down. So reliability is also a huge factor.

If that's your yardstick, then you'll want to buy either a Mazda or a Honda.

A British company called Warranty Direct looked at the repair records of 450,000 cars in the U.K. and the U.S. from 33 different manufacturers and concluded that the two Japanese giants came in first and second when it comes to fewest mechanical failures.

Only eight percent of Mazdas that were three to nine years old had to be called back to the shop for major overhauls. Hondas had a similar record, at nine percent.

Foreign cars made up the bulk of the list, with Toyota, Mitsubishi and even Kia all ranking in the top five.

What does that mean for the North American models? More headaches and more visits to the garage.

The first domestic make to show up on the list is Ford - and it places 14th. Chrysler ranked only 26th.

Another American classic is at the bottom of the list when it comes to reliability as the vehicle ages. Jeeps were 46 percent more likely to need parts when they'd been in an owner's hands for a number of years.

The news is another sign of why foreign cars continue to outsell those manufactured here. And it's showing in the bottom lines.

On Thursday, Ford announced it had lost nearly $13 billion in 2006 - the biggest annual slump since the company was founded 103 years ago.

The cars least likely to develop mechanical faults after three-nine years of ownership:

1. Mazda: 8.04%
2. Honda: 8.90%
3. Toyota: 15.78%
4. Mitsubishi: 17.04%
5. Kia: 17.39%
6. Subaru: 18.46%
7. Nissan: 18.86%
8. Lexus: 20.05%
9. Mini: 21.90%
10. Citroen: 25.98%


11. Daewoo: 26.30%
12. Hyundai: 26.36%
13. Peugeot: 26.59%
14. Ford: 26.76%
15. Suzuki: 27.20%
16. Porsche: 27.48%
17. Fiat: 28.49%
18. BMW: 28.64%
19. Vauxhall: 28.77%
20. Mercedes: 29.90%


21. Rover: 30.12%
22. Volvo: 31.28%
23. Volkswagen: 31.44%
24. Jaguar: 32.05%
25. Skoda: 32.12%
26. Chrysler: 34.90%
27. Audi: 36.74%
28. Seat: 36.87%
29. Renault: 36.87%


30. Alfa Romeo: 39.13%
31. Saab: 41.59%
32. Land Rover: 44.21%
33. Jeep: 46.36%

Source: Warranty Direct"
 

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So Lexus rates as a different brand, but Acura and Infiniti don't?

Bleh. :p
 

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I'm surprised that Lexus ranked lower than the Toyotas, shouldn't it be the other way around?
 

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Revenent said:
So Lexus rates as a different brand, but Acura and Infiniti don't?

Bleh. :p

that´s because toyota sells lexus and toyota all over the world but acura is just in the US and infinity also on just 1 or 2 markets.
 

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h1coupe said:
that´s because toyota sells lexus and toyota all over the world but acura is just in the US and infinity also on just 1 or 2 markets.
Yes, I know - I was being facetious. :)
 

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I am really surprise to see Mazda on the top of the list!!!! Did they count those Mazda that made by Ford plant?... I meant the US plant :troutslap
 

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So i went to that warranty direct website and they directed me to reliabilityindex.co.uk.

There they have the stats all broken down....
http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/m...339010848601&country=usa&searchtype=relindex#

#s dont raelly add up. The american cars and kia seem to show they are more reliable than the japanese!
eg. KIA 17.39% PLYMOUTH 22.99% VOLKSWAGEN 24.29% HONDA 25.07% TOYOTA 24.05%

It states that acura is quite high and audi is more reliable.
ACURA 33.29% AUDI 30.78%

The higer the percentage, the higher the risk. Honda is more riskier than VW and toyota edges it out slightly? Dunno how warranty direct calculates their stats.
 

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ians said:
I am really surprise to see Mazda on the top of the list!!!! Did they count those Mazda that made by Ford plant?... I meant the US plant :troutslap
same here i thought Mazdas are well known to be not reliable?
 

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I don't believe in any of these stats. I believe in my own experience and my own experience tells me

in terms of reliability:

Honda = Good
Mazda = SHIT
Ford = SHIT
GMC Trucks = Good
BMW = SHIT
Audi = SHIT
VW = SHIT
Toyota = Good
MBenz = SHIT


These are cars that I have had personal experience with. Anything other than that, I just have a hard time believing.

It's like those reports you hear about VW finally getting their shit together and making reliable cars! Yeah OK!!!
 

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IranBT said:
I don't believe in any of these stats. I believe in my own experience and my own experience tells me

in terms of reliability:

Honda = Good
Mazda = SHIT
Ford = SHIT
GMC Trucks = Good
BMW = SHIT
Audi = SHIT
VW = SHIT
Toyota = Good
MBenz = SHIT

These are cars that I have had personal experience with. Anything other than that, I just have a hard time believing.

It's like those reports you hear about VW finally getting their shit together and making reliable cars! Yeah OK!!!
I totally agree on the VW lol.. you should have seen the face when i told my GF to go buy a Golf lol.. she wanted to smack me lol.. looks good but thats bout it haha.. damn you VW you almost go me killed :troutslap
 

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...and my own experience tells me

Peugeot 106XN Palm Beach = SHIT (29.4.1994 - 3.5.2000)
Opel Vectra B Caravan = SHIT (3.5.2000 - 11.12.2005)
Honda Accord Tourer = Good (11.12.2005 - ?)

No problems with the Honda Accord since 1 year / 25.000 km :nod:

http://www.woerstenfeld.de/car/
 

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Something must be wrong with they way they are calculating those numbers. According to the list in the link for US cars, Daewoo, Hyundai, Kia, and Mitsubishi are the 4 most reliable brands in the US. Not only that, but in terms of the scores they have dominating leads over the better-known Japanese competitors.

Maybe they didn't normalize by the number of cars from each brand on the road? Or, maybe they counted only certain types of repairs that mainstream brands are more likely to encounter, such as non-warranty repairs done at a dealership?

These are just guesses, but something is not adding up here.
 

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Here you all go.. just some information why ppl buy what they buy and if you think our cars have alot of problems.. you just try to buy another car lol..

"Where Does Your Car Rank On List Of Most Likely To Need Repairs?
Friday January 26, 2007
So you're looking for a new car and you're wondering about the one thing we all do - price.

That's one factor that comes into play when a buyer enters a showroom. But here's another. Cars are complicated machines and can often break down. So reliability is also a huge factor.

If that's your yardstick, then you'll want to buy either a Mazda or a Honda.

A British company called Warranty Direct looked at the repair records of 450,000 cars in the U.K. and the U.S. from 33 different manufacturers and concluded that the two Japanese giants came in first and second when it comes to fewest mechanical failures.

Only eight percent of Mazdas that were three to nine years old had to be called back to the shop for major overhauls. Hondas had a similar record, at nine percent.

Foreign cars made up the bulk of the list, with Toyota, Mitsubishi and even Kia all ranking in the top five.

What does that mean for the North American models? More headaches and more visits to the garage.

The first domestic make to show up on the list is Ford - and it places 14th. Chrysler ranked only 26th.

Another American classic is at the bottom of the list when it comes to reliability as the vehicle ages. Jeeps were 46 percent more likely to need parts when they'd been in an owner's hands for a number of years.

The news is another sign of why foreign cars continue to outsell those manufactured here. And it's showing in the bottom lines.

On Thursday, Ford announced it had lost nearly $13 billion in 2006 - the biggest annual slump since the company was founded 103 years ago.

The cars least likely to develop mechanical faults after three-nine years of ownership:

1. Mazda: 8.04%
2. Honda: 8.90%
3. Toyota: 15.78%
4. Mitsubishi: 17.04%
5. Kia: 17.39%
6. Subaru: 18.46%
7. Nissan: 18.86%
8. Lexus: 20.05%
9. Mini: 21.90%
10. Citroen: 25.98%


11. Daewoo: 26.30%
12. Hyundai: 26.36%
13. Peugeot: 26.59%
14. Ford: 26.76%
15. Suzuki: 27.20%
16. Porsche: 27.48%
17. Fiat: 28.49%
18. BMW: 28.64%
19. Vauxhall: 28.77%
20. Mercedes: 29.90%


21. Rover: 30.12%
22. Volvo: 31.28%
23. Volkswagen: 31.44%
24. Jaguar: 32.05%
25. Skoda: 32.12%
26. Chrysler: 34.90%
27. Audi: 36.74%
28. Seat: 36.87%
29. Renault: 36.87%


30. Alfa Romeo: 39.13%
31. Saab: 41.59%
32. Land Rover: 44.21%
33. Jeep: 46.36%

Source: Warranty Direct"
Agreed
 
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